On 04.08.25 21:06, Justin Forbes wrote: > When we started the migration to gitlab/kernel-ark for maintaining the > Fedora kernel, an email bridge was created to help facilitate > awareness of what was going on in that space.
FWIW a quick note from a non-rh contributor that follows Fedora's kernel development closely for more than two decades now: I understand this step (and others that lead to the creation of kernel-ark). Nevertheless it bothers me somewhat, as I think we over time more and more lost the "watch this mailing list and the commits <over there> and you'll soon learn how Fedora's kernel is developed"[1]. And I wonder if this is something that will bite us in the long run, as it imho makes things hard for newcomers[2] to find there way in; together with other small annoying things, among them "links to non-public rh-interna jira issues in kernel-ark merge requests and commits" or "you can subscribe to merge requests on kernel-ark, but be prepared to get drowned in noise from the CI bot". But maybe that's just how it is these days and I only consider this to be a problem because I got the feeling that it would scare me away if I joined Fedora today and wanted to contribute to its kernel. Just wanted to share this. Don't think there is anything easy we could do to improve things[3]. Ciao, Thorsten [1] yes, there is https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/kernel/commits/, but it makes it hard, as kernel-ark specific changes are squashed there; cloning kernel-ark and the running "git log kernel-ark/master..kernel-ark/os-build" will give you something nice, but I failed to find something like that in the gitlab webui (ideally subscribable by rss!); but maybe I did not look hard enough (I found http://gitlab.com/cki-project/kernel-ark/-/compare/master..os-build, but that is somewhat different and not really helpful). [2] yes, sure, gitlab makes some thing easier for them [3] I first wanted to suggest "link to the individual kernel-ark specific commits in the git commit message for dist.git", but then I thought "ahh, no, I guess that's not worth the trouble". -- _______________________________________________ kernel mailing list -- kernel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to kernel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/kernel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
