On Mar 5, 2018 6:30 AM, Bernd Petrovitsch <be...@petrovitsch.priv.at> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2018-03-05 at 02:35 +0000, Alex Arvelaez wrote:
> [...]
> > Device makers don't love updating their devices, I don't see how you
> > could fix that sadly. What's your solution?
>
> It's much worse for varying reasons.
>
> And why should "we" (whoever that is) fix the problems of others?

I wasn't saying the kernel community should take on this problem. I was saying 
the kernel community can't possibly fix this problem.

> The upstream can't do anything directly if the downstream simply
> refuses to update (if there are fixes to real threats) and/or reboot
> (if it's the kernel).

We agree on all points. :)

Regards,

Alex
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