Edwin, On Mar 27, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Edwin van den Oetelaar wrote:
> Sorry for top-posting but.. > > I expressed a vision, which could be a direction. (like the moon 50 > years ago in 1962) Sure, and I gave you my opinion. > The future will tell if it is something of value. Off the record, I have been wrong before :-) > I am just one person with limited time. > Let me start on something small, you mention import/output/gcode.. > Just point me to something concrete and I will cooperate and try to be > helpful. The best I can direct you is the link Brian gave you <quote> For speed, here's a direct link to the bug tracker for KiCad hosted on Launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad </quote> When I checked it said: 558 open bugs, so there is plenty to do. I wasn't trying to make you feel unwelcome, if I did I apologize. All help is welcome. /Martijn > > Have a good day, > Edwin > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Martijn Kuipers > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On Mar 27, 2012, at 12:22 PM, Edwin van den Oetelaar wrote: >> >>> First: Thanks for the warm welcome everyone. >>> >>> For now I just want to get to know the project by fixing some bugs >>> that nobody got time for. (or some feature you think most important) >>> >>> As a vision I see more of the project rewritten in a >>> python/WxPython/Cython (not SWIG, sorry folks) >> >> Note: I don't know anything about Cython but a quick google. >> >> I think not many devs on the list share your vision. There is some scripting >> work being done, >> but that is scripting inside KiCad and not KiCad inside scripting. >> >> I also think a major rewrite of KiCad to Python/C#/QT4/Whatever, is not >> something that will benefit the project (my opinion). >> >> There are still many things that could be done in Python/wxPython/Cython, >> but I foresee those as small addon programs to >> KiCad and not the other way around. Things like importer/exporter/gcode >> creator/etc. >> >> >> /Martijn >> >>> This will make the whole system very flexible (while running) without >>> need of re-compiles. Many things (including GUI and import/export) can >>> benefit from a high-level approach with code-development in advanced >>> editors/interactive shells (like Pycharm, DreamPie) The introspection >>> (also of code written in Cython) will bring new levels of productivity >>> and performance (and development speed) never seen before. (not in >>> Eagle, not in any of the commercial software I worked with and (got) >>> payed for) >>> The reason that this will work with KiCAD and not with the other >>> projects is that KiCAD is open and the rest of the world is not, >>> everyone is 'protecting their investment' by keeping things closed and >>> charging insane amounts of money for minor updates (which are released >>> as new major versions, so get your wallet ready). >>> In about 2 years KiCAD will have taken over in number of features, >>> means of workflow-management and integration with other software. >>> Some things that will make an impact : integration/import of >>> mechanical drawings/footprints from others. Editing/routing with >>> 'inference engine' in a sketch-up way. (showing alternatives in >>> real-time, smart align and snapping) >>> >>> What do you dream about? >>> >>> Have a good day, >>> Edwin >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Fabrizio Tappero >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Welcome Edwin, >>>> >>>> great to hear that you want to help. You will have plenty of chances >>>> to do so. What is that interests you? >>>> >>>> cheers >>>> fabrizio >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Martijn Kuipers >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Hello Edwin, >>>>> >>>>> You had the first step right. Joining this mailing-list is the right >>>>> place to start helping KiCad. >>>>> We have a few very core contributors (I am not one of them), who are >>>>> improving KiCad in a rapid pace. >>>>> >>>>> As a matter of fact, the improvements through the last year of KiCad have >>>>> been amazing thanks to them. >>>>> >>>>> Just for the interest, what would be your platform of choice you use >>>>> KiCad on? Windows/Linux/Mac/Other? >>>>> >>>>> Eeschema has undergone a major change in the format of its libraries, >>>>> based on s-expressions, which I think is one of >>>>> the best changes that happened, even though it does not directly improve >>>>> the user-experience. So if you are thinking of >>>>> things related to schema-import from other programs (Eagle v6 for >>>>> example), you best look at the new format. >>>>> >>>>> Other than that, I would suggest to work on some of the things you want >>>>> to see improved: That gives you the best motivation. >>>>> >>>>> Like other open source, you will need a sponsor for committing things. >>>>> Let me advise you on some things to take care of: >>>>> - read and follow coding-style; >>>>> - explain what you want to achieve and how to achieve it. The list is >>>>> pretty responsive >>>>> - Make piece-wise patches, don't expect a large patch to be applied, as >>>>> it is difficult to check. >>>>> >>>>> KiCad is a very large code, so the core-devs are very keen on keeping the >>>>> code maintainable. >>>>> >>>>> Met vriendelijke groeten/Warm regards, >>>>> Martijn >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 27, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Edwin van den Oetelaar wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>> My name is Edwin, I have some motivation and skill to help with your >>>>>> project. >>>>>> Although I am not very old yet, I do have some deep knowledge of >>>>>> PCB's, data-formats, workflow and related software. >>>>>> (I have been working in this field for more than 15 years) >>>>>> >>>>>> I can program in almost anything, and have some visions on how to make >>>>>> this project even better. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just throw me a bone (a few bugs to get my teeth into) so I can chew >>>>>> on it, and help you. >>>>>> I am a bit confused about how this is coordinated, I see so many >>>>>> websites (sourceforge/lauchpad/yahoo, some French stuff) >>>>>> Just point me in the right direction. >>>>>> >>>>>> Keep it going, and have a happy day, >>>>>> >>>>>> Edwin
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