I'll set my PPA to whatever is decided. I am also considering making a "scripting PPA" with the scripting support turned on--if it's still something that has to be turned on.
Adam Wolf Wayne and Layne, LLC On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Wayne Stambaugh <[email protected]> wrote: > On 10/11/2012 11:31 AM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: >> >> On 10/11/2012 05:27 AM, Brian Sidebotham wrote: >>> >>> Hi Guys, >>> >>> Would it be beneficial if I changed KicadWinbuilder to build with the >>> new nanometer units? >>> >>> It should get more people testing the nanometer support and provide >>> some feedback. I think quite a few people use Winbuilder to get access >>> to the latest versions, but don't change anything in the setup. This >>> way it will gradually get you some more nanometer beta testers and >>> feedback. >>> >>> Let me know as I will only take a few minutes to change. >>> >>> Best Regards, Brian. >> >> >> I am using the nanometer build without issue. >> >> (My only suspicion is with respect to grabbing zone borders with the mouse >> pointer. I >> have felt for some time that the hit testing there should use pixels to >> measure acceptable >> distance, not IU which are subject to variances on zoom factor. Pixels >> are not subject to >> zoom factor. Its in the TODO.txt file. It is painfully hard to select a >> zone boarder >> reliably in the nanometer build.) >> >> >> I like the idea of forcing folks to smoke out problems. Because it has to >> happen >> sometime. There are no beta testers on some kind of payroll. >> >> >> Pcbnew files (even legacy format files) created from that point forward >> are not compatible >> with the deci-mils build. So it is a bridge which is difficult to >> traverse backwards across. >> >> >> I've found that the Eagle plugin needs the nanometer build to avoid >> rounding errors, >> because coming from metric to deci-mils is and has been a problem >> regardless of plugin. >> This was the whole impetus to move to nanometers as a means of avoiding >> rounding errors >> even within legacy files in the first place. >> >> The fork in the road looks like this: >> >> a) change now, generate a bunch of new mm based footprint libraries and mm >> based legacy >> board files, which are not compatible with deci-mil builds. >> >> >> b) wait until the *.kicad_pcb files and s-expression footprints are fully >> supported, those >> will only ever be in mm, meaning this is mandatorily the nanometer build. >> Legacy files >> generated from this build are also not compatible with deci-meter builds. >> >> >> a) and b) both have the same disadvantage. >> >> >> I have personally chosen to go the a) route, because I can get more >> accurate footprints >> and boards in play now. I never have to use an older version of the >> software anyway. >> >> >> I cannot speak for other users, only for myself, and for the benefits to >> the project. >> >> Mostly we might be speaking about new users being affected by your change >> to your script. >> For them I might be inclined to lean towards a) also. >> >> >> If there was a pause point in the script's execution, or a way you can >> explain how to >> change from the default of nanometers to rebuild, that might be enough to >> make everyone >> minimally grumpy. >> >> >> On balance, I find your suggestion more positive than negative. >> > > I think it's a pretty good idea. You might want to see what the Ubuntu PPA > folks are using just so we're all on the same page. There may be a few > corner cases like print and plot scaling where things are not quite 100%. > It also might be a good idea to get the nanometre stuff fixed before we > unleash the new board and footprint library file formats. I'm sure there > will be some grumbling because board file unit changes will create a large > diff when they didn't make any changes to the board but that is to be > expected. No good deed goes unpunished. > > Wayne > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
