Le 13/10/2014 03:50, Carl Poirier a écrit :
Is component" the official naming? What about symbol?
I remember when I started using EDAs, I was looking for "symbol menu" to
put things on schematic. I think I was looking for symbol because we
call symbol what we draw on a schematic. Imo Component still stands
because of the following.
See pictures attached.
_This is a Symbol: _
Lines and circles, it looks like a NPN
_This is a Component:_
Symbol, designator, pin numbers, logical connexions, reference, footprint.
The symbol is indeed what we see in the eeschema, and one of the thing
we edit in the editor, but the logical object behind contains a lot of
other parameters, including the symbol. Also, when working, if I show a
schematic to a coworker, I will say 'look at this symbol' to show him a
cool looking 18 pin photoexciter or a crazy mosfet, but i'll say
'component' when referring to the device. Imagine this: "Where is this
symbol on this schematic ?" and the guy go crazy saying "Here !....
here.... here.... and here !" :D
As was discussed in the other thread, I am convinced the former should
be reserved for a future feature consisting of the marriage of
different things, such as a symbol, a footprint, a SPICE and 3d model.
Else, how are we going to call these? I have used Altium, and as Andy
Peters said, this is how these guys call it, too.
I'm checking Altium v14.3.9 right now and I can't find "Symbol".
When you say "the marriage of different things", this is a good feature
existing in Altium indeed. They call it an Integrated library (or
compiled library). These libs contain both SchLibraries and
PCBLibraries, strongly linked together. You use this type of library
when you know the footprints you create for a family of product will not
be used elsewhere, like a connector family for example. You can't edit it.
But even with this, a non integrated Component is still a component in
the SchEditor. He is just waiting to be binded with a footprint. You
still see a symbol with designator, reference, pins...etc. The only
difference is that the footprints and 3d models are private and can't be
used by another component.
[off topic]
There is no editor in Altium for these lib(which is a pain in the a**),
you have to extract the source libraries, edit the two libs separately
and then recompile the integrated library. And btw, all the components
you get by default with Altium are in this format. All footprint
private. A nightmare ! Usually I just extract sources from these intLibs
depending on what i need and then I allow them to live freely on my HDD :)
For kicad, it could be a good thing to be able to embed a single
footprint to a component if the footprint is really special, but it's
non sens if you can appropriately tag the footprint and put it with the
others.
The way kicad libraries work needs improvement (footprint linking in
component editor with preview ;) ) but shouldn't be drastically changed.
Everything is quickly accessible and the 3d model is already 'embedded'
or linked to the footprint. Perfect !
Also if you have time, take a look at CompOrg.
https://github.com/cidadao/Component-Organizer It's a little free
software for datasheet and application ot management. It can give ideas
for Kicad.
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On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Mark Roszko <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Very minor but the main KiCAD window calls it "Schematic Library
Editor", eeschema calls it "Library Editor" and the window itself is
"Parts Library Editor".
Can the name be standardized?
It might be better to just call it "Component Library Editor" because
that's what the schematic symbols are called instead of Parts.
Just
like PCB Footprint Editor is for Footprints.
I would go for "Schematic Library Editor" and "PCB Library Editor".
--
Mark
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