As i said i would, i edited kicad-install.sh to remove wxgtk3.0 and instead I installed wxgtk2.8 and then ran kicad-install.sh --install-or-update

it seems to have worked. I have not tried to make anything yet, but eeschema and pcbnew open just fine... then i went looking for cvpcb...

cvpcb is gone?!?! i think i am happy about that! stuff looks really good right now.

Are there any tests i should run to see if kicad actually works without wxgtk3.0??

thanks
-jake

On Sat, 18 Oct 2014, Adam Wolf wrote:

Hi folks,
I threw together a PPA today, with the source packages of wxpython3 and 
wxwidgets3 from 14.10, rebuilt for 14.04.  It was relatively painless, after I 
modified the backport
package script I was using to let me make arbitrary changes :)  I added 
mesa-common-dev as a build-dependency for wxpython3.  (It looks like the Ubuntu 
folks added this
dependency for wxpython3 in August, and then in the next update, accidentally 
removed it.)

I have to stop working on this today, but if someone wants to play around with 
it from here before I write more instructions...

https://launchpad.net/~adamwolf/+archive/ubuntu/kicad-trusty-backports

Don't let the Launchpad page fool you--there are 37 binary packages in the PPA 
(https://launchpad.net/~adamwolf/+archive/ubuntu/kicad-trusty-backports/+packages).

Nick made some progress while I was on a walk this afternoon--I didn't quite 
follow everything he did, so I continued this work.

Adam Wolf
Cofounder and Engineer
W&L
*
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Adam Wolf <[email protected]> 
wrote:

      The plan is that most users will not compile KiCad.

      This PPA will, at first, only contain the back ports of any packages 
needed to build KiCad on 14.04.

      In terms of new regular binary release, OS X is the first on my list, but 
it is very close, thanks to the help of everyone on this list.

      Adam Wolf
      Cofounder and Engineer
      W&L

      On Oct 18, 2014 5:28 PM, "Jake" <[email protected]> wrote:
            Thank you Adam for your work on this.

            I haven't been back at sudoroom (where I am trying to install 
kicad) to test the fixes that were mentioned below, but I think that anything 
that makes
            it easier to install kicad is good.  Ideally it will be possible 
for ubuntu 12.04 to install kicad by following instructions - keep in mind that 
12.04
            is LONG TERM SUPPORT and is still run by many people around the 
world, for good reasons.

            Will this PPA also include KiCAD itself? :) :) :)

            -jake (dreaming of the good old wxgtk2.8 days)

            On Sat, 18 Oct 2014, Adam Wolf wrote:

                  I spent quite a few hours on this today.  I set up a PPA, did 
a backport of wxpython3 (which provides most of these packages), and uploaded
                  it.  The build on the Ubuntu servers
                  fails, due to the package not specifying mesa-common-dev as a 
build-depends.  (This issue is fixed in Debian, for what it's worth.)
                  I pinged the folks on the #ubuntu-packaging IRC in order to 
figure out what my next step is, but I haven't gotten a reply yet.

                  Harrumph.

                  Adam Wolf
                  Cofounder and Engineer
                  W&L

                  On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Carl Poirier 
<[email protected]> wrote:
                        > i did try this and it said it couldn't satisfy the 
dependancies..
                  Hi Jake, you can still install the package this way, 
inserting the dependencies that need to be ignored. I built recent KiCads this 
way.

                  sudo dpkg --install --ignore-depends=_______ 
python-wxgtk3.0.deb
                  > If I can find a few savvy volunteers here who use their 
14.04 machines regularly and also want to test this for me, I can propose it be
                  included in official backports.

                  Hi Adam,
                  My main machine is running Xubuntu 14.04. I can test this for 
you during a few weeks. After that, I plan tu update to 14.10 myself.

                  Do I have to compile with KICAD_SCRIPTING_WXPYTHON, or only 
KICAD_SCRIPTING?

                  Let me know when the backports are ready.

                  Regards,

                  Carl

                  On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 9:40 AM, Nick Østergaard 
<[email protected]> wrote:
                        Hi Adam

                        I have an ubuntu 14.04 (trusty) available, but I don't 
use it daily
                        though. I can still test the packages for you.

                        Nick

                        2014-10-18 15:20 GMT+02:00 Adam Wolf 
<[email protected]>:
                        > *sigh*
                        >
                        > I have begun the backports process.  
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
                        >
                        > What this means is that I am creating a PPA of 
packages that are needed for
                        > KiCad and are already in 14.10 (utopic), but 
rejiggering the packages so
                        > they're meant for 14.04 (trusty).
                        >
                        > If I can find a few savvy volunteers here who use 
their 14.04 machines
                        > regularly and also want to test this for me, I can 
propose it be included in
                        > official backports.
                        >
                        > Hopefully this goes as smoothly as getting wxWidgets 
3.0 working on this
                        > week's OS X release.  (Sometimes I feel we spend more 
time working on our
                        > dependencies than on KiCad!)
                        >
                        > Adam Wolf
                        > Cofounder and Engineer
                        > Wayne and Layne, LLC
                        >
                        > On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 5:21 AM, Jake <[email protected]> 
wrote:
                        >>
                        >> i did try this and it said it couldn't satisfy the 
dependancies..
                        >>
                        >>
                        >> On Sat, 18 Oct 2014, Nick Østergaard wrote:
                        >>
                        >>> So did you ever try what Moses suggested?
                        >>>
                        >>> 
https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg15067.html
                        >>>
                        >>> 2014-10-18 10:30 GMT+02:00 Jake <[email protected]>:
                        >>>>
                        >>>> so i'm trying to install kicad on a fresh install 
of Ubuntu 14.04, which
                        >>>> is
                        >>>> this years' long-term support version of Ubuntu.
                        >>>>
                        >>>> it should be easy right?
                        >>>>
                        >>>> but immediately, the kicad-install.sh script says
                        >>>> E: Unable to locate package python-wxgtk3.0
                        >>>> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 
'python-wxgtk3.0'
                        >>>>
                        >>>> i looked into it and i see that python-wxgtk3.0 is 
only available for
                        >>>> bleeding-edge installs of Ubuntu 14.10 which only 
just now came out.
                        >>>>
                        >>>> this is very frustrating and basically means that 
anyone not running
                        >>>> literally the latest system software can't install 
kicad.  Is this
                        >>>> really
                        >>>> necessary?  I have python-wxgtk2.8 available to 
me, is that not
                        >>>> sufficient?
                        >>>>
                        >>>> I am not an expert with aptitude and sources, and 
i have no idea how to
                        >>>> get
                        >>>> python-wxgtk3.0 onto my system, so i just 
installed python-wxgtk2.8
                        >>>> and i took out that line from kicad-install.sh and 
i'm trying again.
                        >>>>
                        >>>> but if possible, i think it would be ideal if this 
requirement were
                        >>>> taken
                        >>>> out.  I can't in good conscience keep telling 
people that they should
                        >>>> switch
                        >>>> to kicad if i can't even figure out how to install 
it myself.
                        >>>>
                        >>>> apologies if i'm missing something basic, or if my 
tone is frustrated.
                        >>>>
                        >>>> thank you,
                        >>>> -jake
                        >>>>
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