Gah, mailing list fail, sent directly to Wayne. On Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 02:32:53PM -0400, Chris Pavlina wrote: > Hey, I'm one of those "old timers" in everything but age! I navigate > even my browser almost exclusively by keyboard using Vimium... The thing > is, I just never found them useful in a large dialog anyway because > they're so damned hard to read - they're good if you get used to them, > but you're not going to get used to the assignments in a dialog you > almost never use and which has so many mnemonics that it's nearly > running out of letters. It's more efficient to just thwack Tab a few > times. > > But that's okay, I'm not on the warpath to remove mnemonics or anything! > I'll tidy up the mnemonics in that dialog and perhaps a few others and > submit a patch soon. > > > On Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 02:28:47PM -0400, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > > On 8/3/2015 1:02 PM, Chris Pavlina wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > The keyboard mnemonics (underlined letters) in the eeschema and libedit > > > config boxes are a bit messy. There is at least one conflict (two items > > > sharing L), and many items missing mnemonics. > > > > > > I could easily patch this, but I'd rather discuss: perhaps they should > > > be removed? It is not usual to have mnemonics in large, complicated > > > dialogs like this - they're not particularly useful there, and they are > > > error-prone as the current state demonstrates. People forget to add > > > them, or miss conflicts. Mnemonics are much more useful in dialogs that > > > are used frequently like text edit dialogs, where a user might want, for > > > example, to jump quickly to the "text size" field. With so many options, > > > nobody is going to remember the mnemonics anyway (note what "mnemonic" > > > means: it's a memory aid!), and it doesn't save any time when one has to > > > squint at all the options to find the underlined letter. > > > > > > Of course the possibility for inconsistency goes even farther: I haven't > > > even checked the localizations to see how they behave. > > > > > > Anybody else in favor of just removing them from these two dialogs? The > > > pcbnew and modedit dialogs already do not use them, and most other GUI > > > applications that I checked now also do not use them in their > > > Preferences boxes. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Chris > > > > > > > While your logic make sense, my preference is to keep the mnemonics, fix > > any duplicates, and add the missing ones in any offending dialogs. I > > realize on some complex dialogs, it can be difficult to set unique > > mnemonics but that's pretty rare. There are still a lot of us old > > timers around who prefer our keyboards over reaching for the mouse > > whenever possible. I know it's passe and quaint but I'm not ready to > > give it up just yet :) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > Post to : [email protected] > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
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