Thanks Chris. On 4/17/2016 10:41 AM, Chris Pavlina wrote: > It's gone :) > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 08:25:48AM -0400, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: >> Since we have enough alternative methods for rotating a block of >> footprints, I don't think removing this is going to be much of a burden >> on anyone. >> >> On 4/13/2016 5:35 AM, Chris Pavlina wrote: >>> Just rotate them first, then place. We don't need specific tools for >>> every conceivable permutation of movements. Unless even more people come >>> in saying they need this, or Wayne overrides me... I still don't think >>> this needs to stay. >>> >>> On Apr 13, 2016 02:16, "David Godfrey" <i...@sbts.com.au >>> <mailto:i...@sbts.com.au>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Chris, >>> >>> A rotation of the selection is not the same as a rotation of the >>> individual components. >>> Consider you already have the components roughly in a grid, and you need >>> to rotate them by 20 degrees. >>> Rotating the selection means you have to do major repositioning of every >>> component to get them back in the correct area. >>> >>> However rotating the components within the selection means they are >>> still in about the right position, so only minor placement adjustments >>> are required. >>> These minor adjustments can likely be made using the align and >>> distribute tools >>> >>> I Agree half-implemented features are bad, better to update them and >>> properly implement. >>> >>> Regards >>> David G >>> >>> On 13/04/16 08:53, Chris Pavlina wrote: >>> > GAL already has this. Block or multi select, Ctrl-M for "move >>> exactly" (or use >>> > the context menu), and type an angle. Just rotates the whole >>> selection, then >>> > you can place your rotated resistors. >>> > >>> > Considering legacy is on its way out, I'd rather not keep crusty old >>> > half-implemented legacy features around to require maintenance. >>> > >>> > >>> > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 08:50:38AM +0800, David Godfrey wrote: >>> >> Hmm, >>> >> >>> >> I'v not used it on Kicad but the ability to change the >>> orientation of an >>> >> arbitrary selection of footprints is something I've used many >>> times in >>> >> Altium. >>> >> >>> >> Ideally you want to be able to set an absolute orientation, and >>> also a >>> >> relative (to current) angle adjustment. >>> >> >>> >> This is especially useful when designing boards like LED matrices and >>> >> wanting to put all resisters on a specific angle (eg: 21.3deg). >>> >> You can then do an array alignment with the same outer limit you used >>> >> for your LED alignment. >>> >> Then move the group of resistors into position relative to the LED's. >>> >> >>> >> Now running your tracks becomes trivial. >>> >> >>> >> Without the ability to auto adjust the orientation on a selection of >>> >> parts the job becomes long and tedious. >>> >> Some of the PCB's I've done this on have over 1000 LED's and >>> resistors, >>> >> and generally you need to orient both the resistors and the LED's >>> >> >>> >> So in summary, I'd like to keep the ability to do this, but on a >>> >> selection instead of globally. >>> >> And being able to alter it as an absolute angle, or as a relative to >>> >> current (prefix the new angle with + or - to get relative movement) >>> >> would be beneficial. >>> >> >>> >> Regards >>> >> David G >>> >> >>> >> On 13/04/16 06:40, Chris Pavlina wrote: >>> >>> I wonder how many of you are even aware of >>> DIALOG_ORIENT_FOOTPRINTS. It's >>> >>> hidden in the Secret Menu in pcbnew (the spread-and-place) one, >>> menu item >>> >>> Orient All Footprints. The code hasn't been touched since 2010 >>> except a few >>> >>> cleanups, and it seems really simplistic and useless to me. I >>> was going to >>> >>> upgrade it to floating-point angle entry like everything else, >>> but.... >>> >>> >>> >>> Does _anybody_ even use this? It seems utterly useless. I have >>> no idea when >>> >>> you'd want to globally apply an orientation to footprints. Can I >>> just tear it >>> >>> out? :P >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>> >> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >>> <mailto:kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net> >>> >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>> >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
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