Hi José! On 02.06.2017 17:05, José Ignacio wrote: > The use of "..." for menu items that show a dialog with extra options > necessary to perform the operation has been in Microsoft's UX guidelines and > apple's HIG since time immemorial: > > https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn742392.aspx#usingellipses > > https://developer.apple.com/library/content/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/OSXHIGuidelines/TerminologyWording.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/20000957-CH15-SW3 > > https://developer.gnome.org/hig/stable/writing-style.html.en#ellipses > > It is a very well known and traditional convention and Kicad shouldn't break > it. As the guidelines say, the ellipsis (...) is reserved for commands that > need further input from the user to proceed,
Ok! Totally agree until here.. > showing a modal dialog shouldn't be enough to warrant adding the ellipsis > (though I've seen several programs be ellipsis-happy and put it on everything > that calls a dialog...) > .. but now I can't follow you. What could be a more severe indicator of "needing further input" than showing a /modal/ dialog box? This is exactly what ellipses are about. They say "Click me, and I will force you into modal interaction". Modal interactions should be kept to a minimum.. most of the dialogs that KiCad shows could be replaced by dockable object inspector windows (Which I think is already on the roadmap for Version 6). Until then, ellipses should be used. best regards, Thomas > On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:20 AM, Fabrizio Tappero <fabrizio.tapp...@gmail.com > <mailto:fabrizio.tapp...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hi JP, > > thanks a lot!! > > I am a little unsure about this "Save as..." three dots thing used every time > the menu item takes you to a second window. but I will investigate about UI > stuff a little. > > cheers Fabrizio > > > > > On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 12:44 PM, jp charras <jp.char...@wanadoo.fr > <mailto:jp.char...@wanadoo.fr>> wrote: > > Le 30/05/2017 à 14:54, Fabrizio Tappero a écrit : >> Hello Wayne, In attachment you can find a good review of approx 30 icons >> and a global simplification of approx 30 icons. I have also corrected some >> menu labels. >> >> Since there is a lot of corrected text that is very much related to >> English, it would be great if you could review it before submitting it. A >> not so fun work but I think it will make kicad a much better tool. >> >> I think it would be recommendable to avoid "a" and "the" in button and >> menu tooltips. So that it way easier to understand what the button or >> tooltip is about. The use of singular plural is also inconsistent and I >> tried to fix it. Please Wayne feel free to make any changes you think is >> important. >> >> I have also notices that several menus are a little inconstant. I will try >> work on it since I think the current kicad UI is very usable but it needs >> to be more consistent. >> >> I have tried to fixed a lot of icons so that their meaning is more >> immediate to understand. I have as well started a process of >> simplification of many redundant icons. I think it is important that we >> begin simplifing the kicad icon set because at the moment is really too >> large. >> >> Here below a detailed description of the changes. >> >> Cheers Fabrizio > > > Hi Fabrizio, > > I committed your icons. Thanks. > > > -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS > > > > _______________________________________________ Mailing list: > https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> Post to : > kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > <mailto:kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net> Unsubscribe : > https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> More help : > https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp <https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> > > > > > _______________________________________________ Mailing list: > https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : > kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : > https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : > https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp