Thanks Wayne. I have no personal hesitation against increasing the support for legacy versions if 10.11 ends up not being sufficient either.
Adam Wolf On Nov 27, 2017 7:15 AM, "Wayne Stambaugh" <[email protected]> wrote: > I think this is fine given our manpower limitations. We may want to > keep copies of the current stable release around for users who don't > want to migrate their projects. > > Cheers, > > Wayne > > On 11/26/2017 8:37 PM, Adam Wolf wrote: > > I think I agree, and I think this was Mac dev/packager consensus last > > time this was discussed. Wikipedia says 10.11 is the oldest supported > > right now, but I can't find any primary source. Just for the record, I > > think we should lock this in at the start of a stable series. This > > means whatever oldest version we support for 5.0, we should continue to > > support until 6.0. > > > > Adam Wolf > > > > On Nov 26, 2017 7:31 PM, "Simon Wells" <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > I Think it mainly comes down to, if there is a bug reported on 10.9 > > do we want to be a) trying to sort out why its an issue when we only > > have newer systems or b) scrambling around trying to find an older > > install to be able to test the issue and solve it > > > > Therefore I think its best to at most only support the oldest > > version that is still supported by apple at the time 5.0 is released > > (or at least when the RC is released). > > > > It does not stop someone building for an older version of OSX, but > > if they have issues it is up to them (with the older operating > > system) to solve them > > > > Simon > > > > > > > >> On 27/11/2017, at 1:41 PM, Adam Wolf > >> <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> I'll definitely be keeping the 4.0 server around for at least 6+ > >> months, but the plan is to generate the 5.0 stable releases from a > >> 10.x VM. We should have a test image after next weekend. We had > >> previously discussed using the oldest OS version still getting > >> security updates, which appears to be 10.11. I could do anything > >> from 10.9 on. > >> > >> Do people think supporting 10.11 and newer is sufficient? > >> > >> Adam Wolf > >> > >> On Nov 26, 2017 6:23 PM, "Chris Pavlina" <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> With an upcoming 5.0 I'm not sure how necessary it is to > >> re-release > >> 4.0.7 - I just want to make sure the same mistake doesn't get > >> made for > >> 5.0... > >> > >> On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 11:03:48PM +0000, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > >> > 4.0.7-2 seems reasonable if the previous macos version was > >> 4.0.7-1. > >> > > >> > On 11/26/2017 05:25 PM, Adam Wolf wrote: > >> > > 1) I'll take a look at the script, but I suspect Nick is > >> correct. > >> > > > >> > > 2) What version number should I release this 4.0.7 as? > >> 4.0.7-2? > >> > > > >> > > Adam Wolf > >> > > > >> > > On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Nick Østergaard > >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> It is because of what happened in: > >> > >> [Kicad-developers] Yet another 4.0.7 release bug. > >> > >> > >> https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg30192.html > >> <https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg30192.html> > >> > >> > >> > >> I suspect that the script for the OSX build did not > >> consider that tags could > >> > >> move. Which I think could happen like this: > >> > >> > >> > >> A tag will get pulled down when you pull normally. But if > >> it changes > >> > >> upstream you need to fetch with the --tags option > >> > >> to sync it. > >> > >> > >> > >> 2017-11-26 20:12 GMT+01:00 Chris Pavlina > >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>: > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Okay people, wtf happened here. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Helping someone on IRC figure out a PDF export bug on > >> 4.0.7, when I > >> > >>> realized this: > >> > >>> > >> > >>> https://misc.c4757p.com/pastes/0AOyojEiEE0V.txt > >> <https://misc.c4757p.com/pastes/0AOyojEiEE0V.txt> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> ^ "Tag stable release" is commit 631f6d5, on July 14. > >> The ACTUAL 4.0.7 > >> > >>> tag is on 9f35e38, four commits later on August 1. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Guess which one got released? > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Yup, we released the wrong commit for 4.0.7. The older > >> one, missing > >> > >>> several bug fixes. How did we manage to release > >> something that wasn't > >> > >>> actually tagged as 4.0.7? Doesn't the release build > >> process involve > >> > >>> something like "git checkout 4.0.7"? Help me understand > >> what went wrong > >> > >>> here... > >> > >>> > >> > >>> I'm still trying to figure out how a commit titled "tag > >> stable release > >> > >>> 4.0.7" and the actual 4.0.7 tag do not point at the same > >> place, let > >> > >>> alone how the release build process does not actually > >> directly check out > >> > >>> the 4.0.7 tag. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> -- > >> > >>> Chris > >> > >>> > >> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >> > >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> > >> > >>> Post to : [email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]> > >> > >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> > >> > >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >> <https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> > >> > >> Post to : [email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]> > >> > >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> > >> > >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >> <https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> > >> > > Post to : [email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]> > >> > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> > >> > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >> <https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> > >> > > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> > >> > Post to : [email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]> > >> > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> > >> > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >> <https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> > >> Post to : [email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]> > >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> > >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >> <https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> > >> Post to : [email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]> > >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> > >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >> <https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > Post to : [email protected] > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >
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