On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 11:18 AM, André S. <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi everyone, > > I want to add from a users view: > In the current KiCad 4.0.7 (Windows 64 bit) you can't drag traces in > OpenGL/Cairo, only in legacy. (With this I mean: move a segment of a trace > and it stays attached to the other segments of the trace (Hotkey: 'G')). > Hotkey 'M' moves segments in OpenGL but moves 'connections' in Legacy > (segments stay connected). > More often than not I need the behaviour of Legacy and not that of the > OpenGL canvas. > > In GAL the key to move connections is D, which allows you to drag traces using the push and shove algorithm. Why is it this not G? I have no idea. > Values are not displayed in OpenGL/Cairo, only in Legacy. > That is odd, is there a bug report for that? > And "transparency" is better in Legacy. With only 2 layers you can see the > traces on the bottom layer better than in OpenGL/Cairo. > This was broken recently when the RGBA setting was added. It used to be that all layers would have 80% transparency by default. this probably should be fixed again, I personally prefer to set the transparency even lower for inner layers too. This is all user settable in the nightlies. > > Just for this few reasons I still use Legacy more often than OpenGL when > modifying an existing PCB design. > > From my view OpenGL is nice because you can manipulate single items > (segments of traces) better/more comfortably than in Legacy. And initial > layout work feels smoother. > > Just my 2 cents. :) > > Happy new year, > André > > PS: as a side note: When I switch from "Standard/Legacy" or OpenGL to > Cairo the PCB view goes white and only after a few seconds displays the > PCB. In the other direction there is no delay. > Performance was greatly improved in GAL in the latest nightlies, did you try them or just the GAL as seen in 4.0.7? > > > Am 2017-12-31 um 22:28 schrieb Jon Evans: > > For your consideration, a patch is attached that implements the above. > > > On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Jon Evans <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I think that getting automatic OpenGL detection and recovery working for >> 5.0 might be ambitious. >> Maybe Chris can detail what the next steps are for his approach there, >> but in case we want to push that to a later release, here's what I propose: >> >> 1) Rename the View menu options based on my proposal "Legacy", "Modern >> (Accelerated)", "Modern (Fallback)" >> 2) Change PCB_BASE_FRAME::SwitchCanvas to save the canvas config value >> after calling UseGalCanvas() rather than before. >> 3) Show a first-run dialog like the mockup in my earlier email, IF canvas >> is not OpenGL and the dialog has not been shown before >> 44) If user clicks "yes" in the first run dialog, then: >> (a) set the config value to prevent the dialog from showing again, >> (b) Set the canvas config setting to Cairo (but don't switch the GAL >> to Cairo), then >> (c) switch to OpenGL canvas using SwitchCanvas() >> >> That way, if the app crashes in step 4c, it should come back up as Cairo >> on the next launch (assuming we crash right away when trying to set up the >> canvas) >> >> Any concerns with the above? >> >> -Jon >> >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 1:55 PM, Jeff Young <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> +1 >>> >>> No menu items. Just a checkbox for Enable Hardware Acceleration in >>> Preferences. >>> >>> On 31 Dec 2017, at 18:36, Andy Peters <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> - In the case of graphics glitches, inform the users in the FAQ/Manual >>> that they can fall back to software renderer in the View menu. >>> - Don't use the term 'canvas' or 'view'. Just 'Enable HW acceleration’. >>> >>> >>> I like that. The fewer technical/programmer terms, the better. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>> Post to : [email protected] >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >>> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >
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