The attached image shows a comparison between a poorly designed icons and a well designed icon <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tango_icons>.
thank you Fabrizio On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 2:19 AM, Nick Østergaard <oe.n...@gmail.com> wrote: > IMHO the new icon collection looks awful. They are not pixel aligned and > renders quite fuzzy in many details. > > http://storage4.static.itmages.com/i/18/0113/h_ > 1515804843_8735496_c1a004f249.png > > Looking at the the new ones are part of the red circles and renders fuzzy, > while the green one looks more like the old one and renders more sharply. > > Some of the simplification made are an improvement, but the icons are not > ready. > > In addition to that a white boarder has been added to overlay icons even > when there is already a black border. I think only one of those should be > there, and probably not a black and white. Usually a darker color of the > same color as the overlay icon makes a better apperance when we are talking > these sizes of icons. But this is really dependent on the icon composition. > Some of the old icons with arrows also had this white boarder, but not the > black one. When removing the white boarder it looked better. > > I don't like that so many icons are change without specific justification. > or example the reload.svg was changed. The direction of the arrows changed > and the color. Why? See attached image. > The export STEP icon, you can't even read the P in STP. > > 2018-01-12 20:11 GMT+01:00 Wayne Stambaugh <stambau...@gmail.com>: > >> Oliver, >> >> The new icons look great. They are far more coherent than what we had. >> I merged your patch into the development branch. Thank you for >> contribution to KiCad. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Wayne >> >> On 01/11/2018 02:54 AM, Oliver Walters wrote: >> > Wayne, >> > >> > I have taken further suggestions and final icon set is shown below: >> > >> > Inline image 1 >> > >> > The attached patch incorporates all of the icon changes thus far >> > implemented. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Oliver >> > >> > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 1:58 AM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambau...@gmail.com >> > <mailto:stambau...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > >> > I see scope creep happening here. I thought the original goal was >> to >> > make some minor tweaks to our existing icons not wholesale >> replacement >> > of the them. I don't like the camera either. I'm not a big fan of >> the >> > calculator icon. Both of these icons looks completely out of place >> with >> > our other icons. Please keep the scope of these changes in check. >> If >> > we want to discuss an entirely new icon theme for v6, that's fine >> at the >> > appropriate time but not for v5. >> > >> > On 1/10/2018 9:42 AM, Jeff Young wrote: >> > > Splendid! >> > > >> > > Although I agree with Kristoffer that the new bitmap2component >> icon >> > > isn’t much help. Import/Export is the one area where we’ve kept >> the >> > > arrows (which I think is fine). Given that, the pixelated “a” >> with an >> > > import arrow would be perfect. >> > > >> > > FWIW, this is one area where I disagree with Nick. I did user >> interface >> > > design and software architecture for Adobe for 25 years and in my >> > > professional opinion, these icons are a HUGE improvement. >> > > >> > > Cheers, >> > > Jeff >> > > >> > > >> > >> On 10 Jan 2018, at 14:28, Oliver Walters >> > >> <oliver.henry.walt...@gmail.com <mailto:oliver.henry.walters@g >> mail.com> >> > >> <mailto:oliver.henry.walt...@gmail.com >> > <mailto:oliver.henry.walt...@gmail.com>>> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> Also, would it be too much to ask for getting the arrows, the >> > >> diskette and the folder in the repo with the patch, >> basically if >> > >> someone wants to create future icons. They could use the same >> > >> arrows for any kind of export, import, save, inspect or view. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> I have created a set of "common icons" for exactly this purpose >> :) >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 1:27 AM, Kristoffer Ödmark >> > >> <kristofferodmar...@gmail.com >> > <mailto:kristofferodmar...@gmail.com> >> > <mailto:kristofferodmar...@gmail.com >> > <mailto:kristofferodmar...@gmail.com>>> >> > >> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> Wow, really nice! Although, the icon for the bitmap2component >> > >> basically looks like a screenshot symbol to me, or something >> > >> related to a webcam. >> > >> >> > >> The old one isnt as polished, but I think it fits better. >> > >> >> > >> Also, would it be too much to ask for getting the arrows, the >> > >> diskette and the folder in the repo with the patch, >> basically if >> > >> someone wants to create future icons. They could use the same >> > >> arrows for any kind of export, import, save, inspect or view. >> > >> >> > >> Basically to help get a icon theme thing going ;) >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> -Kristoffer >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On 01/10/2018 03:13 PM, Oliver Walters wrote: >> > >> >> > >> Wayne, >> > >> >> > >> Here is the outcome of removing the save / load arrows >> and >> > >> replacing with >> > >> standard load / save icons. >> > >> >> > >> I have also further tweaked the main icons as per >> > suggestions. >> > >> >> > >> Screenshots here: >> > >> >> > >> https://imgur.com/a/DzZhZ >> > >> >> > >> This is about as far as I want to go with this, please >> let me >> > >> know if there >> > >> are any outstanding issues that prevent me from >> submitting a >> > >> patch. >> > >> >> > >> Thanks, >> > >> Oliver >> > >> >> > >> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 8:09 AM, Oliver Walters < >> > >> oliver.henry.walt...@gmail.com >> > <mailto:oliver.henry.walt...@gmail.com> >> > >> <mailto:oliver.henry.walt...@gmail.com >> > <mailto:oliver.henry.walt...@gmail.com>>> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> Ok, that's good to hear. I will take another look at >> the >> > >> Gerber icons and >> > >> otherwise see if anyone can suggest some simple clean >> > >> replacements for the >> > >> arrows. If not, I'll push a patch. >> > >> >> > >> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 8:05 AM, Wayne Stambaugh >> > >> <stambau...@gmail.com <mailto:stambau...@gmail.com> >> > <mailto:stambau...@gmail.com <mailto:stambau...@gmail.com>>> >> > >> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> One good thing about bitmaps is they are low risk >> > >> (other than the >> > >> complaining that will surely ensue) so we can >> merge >> > >> them just about any >> > >> time. I don't want to wait too long so our doc >> > images >> > >> can be updated to >> > >> reflect the changes so if we cannot come up with >> > >> better alternatives to >> > >> replace the arrows, I'm OK with leaving them as >> > is and >> > >> pushing it off >> > >> until v6. >> > >> >> > >> Cheers, >> > >> >> > >> Wayne >> > >> >> > >> On 1/9/2018 3:31 PM, Jeff Young wrote: >> > >> >> > >> I think the changes are absolutely good in >> > >> general, and I’d very much >> > >> like to see them get merged. Not that I >> have any >> > >> control over that. ;) >> > >> >> > >> As for the arrows, I’d still really like to >> see >> > >> them go away. The >> > >> colour isn’t the problem, it’s the arrows >> > >> themselves. ANY of the >> > >> alternatives discussed (that don’t include >> > arrows) >> > >> would be better. >> > >> >> > >> Cheers, >> > >> Jeff. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On 9 Jan 2018, at 20:13, Oliver Walters >> > >> <oliver.henry.walt...@gmail.com >> > <mailto:oliver.henry.walt...@gmail.com> >> > >> <mailto:oliver.henry.walt...@gmail.com >> > <mailto:oliver.henry.walt...@gmail.com>> >> > >> <mailto:oliver.henry.walt...@gmail.com >> > <mailto:oliver.henry.walt...@gmail.com> >> > >> <mailto:oliver.henry.walt...@gmail.com >> > <mailto:oliver.henry.walt...@gmail.com>>>> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> The coloured arrows were already in >> > place, all >> > >> I have done is made >> > >> them all the same "style". In fact, >> > previously >> > >> concepts like "save" >> > >> and "load" were conveyed both with a >> downward >> > >> pointing arrow, and the >> > >> arrow colour was the only point of >> > difference. >> > >> >> > >> I thought I had made an improvement on >> what >> > >> was already existing. My >> > >> intent was not to necessarily do a >> sweeping >> > >> redesign. >> > >> >> > >> If this is now an additional requirement >> > I can >> > >> make these not arrows, >> > >> but I'd like some direction on what to do >> > >> instead. It will be hard to >> > >> fit a more detailed icon. >> > >> >> > >> Other than this, what are your thoughts >> > >> overall? Is it worth my time >> > >> pursuing this further? Are these changes >> good >> > >> in general and can you >> > >> see them being merged? >> > >> >> > >> On 10 Jan 2018 04:44, "Wayne Stambaugh" >> > >> <stambau...@gmail.com >> > <mailto:stambau...@gmail.com> >> > >> <mailto:stambau...@gmail.com >> > <mailto:stambau...@gmail.com>> >> > >> <mailto:stambau...@gmail.com >> > <mailto:stambau...@gmail.com> >> > >> <mailto:stambau...@gmail.com >> > <mailto:stambau...@gmail.com>>>> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> On 1/9/2018 12:05 PM, Rene Pöschl >> wrote: >> > >> > On 09/01/18 16:50, Wayne Stambaugh >> > wrote: >> > >> >> I'm with Jose on the arrows. If >> we >> > >> are going to use them, >> > >> please don't >> > >> >> make the all different colors. I >> > >> don't see how a blue left >> > >> arrow versus >> > >> >> a magenta right arrow conveys any >> > >> meaning to the user. >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > I like the idea of coloring them >> > >> differently. For me this will >> > >> give an >> > >> > additional way to distinguish the >> > >> buttons. (Some of them have >> > >> only the >> > >> > direction of the arrow as a >> > difference. >> > >> Which is easily >> > >> overlooked.) I >> > >> > hope having different colors will >> make >> > >> it easier for my brain to >> > >> > remember which button does what. >> (I >> > >> can't tell you how often i >> > >> clicked >> > >> > load symbol instead of update >> symbol >> > >> while working on the >> > >> reorganization >> > >> > of the official lib.) >> > >> >> > >> What information does the different >> > color >> > >> arrow convey? If you are >> > >> using different colors for contrast, >> > that >> > >> is one thing but just >> > >> >> > >> making >> > >> >> > >> them different colors for >> informational >> > >> purposes doesn't make any >> > >> sense >> > >> to me. 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