Do you see this bug on any other boards? If you edit the board in a text editor to move the mounting hole, is it still invisible?
I can’t figure out why we can’t reproduce this…. > On 17 Apr 2018, at 11:40, Michael McCormack <m...@artpoe.com> wrote: > > I never tried to change setting on the routers, still, no better with this > bug regardless. > > On Apr 17, 2018 6:23 AM, "Jeff Young" <j...@rokeby.ie > <mailto:j...@rokeby.ie>> wrote: > Hi Michael, > > Odd. > > FWIW, if you set the interactive router to “Highlight Collisions” mode it > will put you in the driver’s seat. (I think it then acts more like Default, > although it’s been so long since I’ve used Default I can’t remember exactly.) > > Cheers, > Jeff. > > >> On 17 Apr 2018, at 11:14, Michael McCormack <m...@artpoe.com >> <mailto:m...@artpoe.com>> wrote: >> >> Not a help, >> <image.png> >> >> And I'd do more outside of default view if backspace and delete worked on >> traces the same or maybe if the interactive router wasn't so wonky when I'm >> trying to be precise about where I want traces (you pitched it so I'm >> providing the feedback.) >> >> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 5:59 AM, Jeff Young <j...@rokeby.ie >> <mailto:j...@rokeby.ie>> wrote: >> Hi Michael, >> >> You appear to be in Legacy graphics mode (probably still called “Default” in >> 4.0.7). Have you tried OpenGL or Cairo graphics mode? (Note that the modes >> also change the toolsets, and are a big step up over the default/legacy >> toolset.) >> >> Cheers, >> Jeff. >> >> >>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 10:45, Michael McCormack <m...@artpoe.com >>> <mailto:m...@artpoe.com>> wrote: >>> >>> I did try that, but given the oddness of the behavior, I did not resave the >>> board in case someone wanted to check it out and saving would somehow mess >>> things up. Here is the screen shot with all layers and everything enable, >>> still empty at the bottom. >>> >>> >>> <image.png> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 5:14 AM, jp charras <jp.char...@wanadoo.fr >>> <mailto:jp.char...@wanadoo.fr>> wrote: >>> Le 17/04/2018 à 03:42, Steven A. Falco a écrit : >>> > I tried opening the board under Fedora Linux with Kicad 4.0.7 using >>> > pcbnew in stand-alone mode, and the hole is visible, as shown in the >>> > attached screen-shot. >>> > >>> > Steve >>> > >>> > On 04/16/2018 09:30 PM, Jon Evans wrote: >>> >> I tested on Ubuntu and Windows 10 using 5.0rc2 and don't see the >>> >> problem, so I guess it has been fixed somewhere along the way. >>> >> >>> >> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 8:12 PM, Michael McCormack <m...@artpoe.com >>> >> <mailto:m...@artpoe.com> <mailto:m...@artpoe.com >>> >> <mailto:m...@artpoe.com>>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> OK, here is the boar file, if you need anything else, please let me >>> >> know. >>> >> >>> >> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 6:09 PM, Jeff Young <j...@rokeby.ie >>> >> <mailto:j...@rokeby.ie> <mailto:j...@rokeby.ie <mailto:j...@rokeby.ie>>> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Looks like a different bug (2.9mm drill is smaller than 3.2mm >>> >> pad). >>> >> >>> >> I can’t reproduce it on 5.0rc2 Mac. Not sure if that’s because >>> >> it’s fixed in 5.0, or it only shows up on Windows, or it’s something >>> >> specific to Michael’s setup. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>> On 16 Apr 2018, at 22:44, Michael McCormack <m...@artpoe.com >>> >>> <mailto:m...@artpoe.com> <mailto:m...@artpoe.com >>> >>> <mailto:m...@artpoe.com>>> wrote: >>> >>> I tried the board both under Pcbnew 4.07 last stable and the current 5.0rc2 >>> and I do not have any >>> problem with these NPTH pads (I can edit the pad and move the footprint). >>> >>> Be aware you have set many layers and NPTH to "no show". >>> Perhaps you should set all items and layers to "show" >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> This is the module snipped from the board file: >>> >>> >>> >>> (module Ori:MountingHole_3.2mm_M3_ISO14580 (layer F.Cu) >>> >>> (tedit 59C8FBCE) (tstamp 5AC4E91C) >>> >>> (at 138.25 141.050001) >>> >>> (descr "Mounting Hole 3.2mm, no annular, M3, ISO14580") >>> >>> (tags "mounting hole 3.2mm no annular m3 iso14580") >>> >>> (path /583B5C0A) >>> >>> (fp_text reference M1 (at 0 -3.75) (layer F.SilkS) hide >>> >>> (effects (font (size 1 1) (thickness 0.15))) >>> >>> ) >>> >>> (fp_text value "M3_Mounting Hole" (at 0 3.75) (layer F.Fab) >>> >>> (effects (font (size 1 1) (thickness 0.15))) >>> >>> ) >>> >>> (fp_circle (center 0 0) (end 2.75 0) (layer Cmts.User) >>> >>> (width 0.15)) >>> >>> (fp_circle (center 0 0) (end 3 0) (layer F.CrtYd) (width >>> >>> 0.05)) >>> >>> (pad "" np_thru_hole circle (at 0 0) (size 3.2 3.2) (drill >>> >>> 2.9) (layers *.Cu *.Mask) >>> >>> (clearance 2)) >>> >>> ) >>> >>> >>> >>> I am using 4.0.7 under Windows 10, if you decode this is the >>> >>> known bug I sincerely apologize for having wasted your time. I did not >>> >>> see a bug that I thought was the same thing. If not, I will mail it to >>> >>> any and all of you to look at. I won't obfuscate, I'd be afraid to >>> >>> disturb the problem. I see no real problem sharing the board with >>> >>> Kicad developers but can also understand why my employer is not keen to >>> >>> have our boards posted on the internet. >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 5:13 PM, Jon Evans <j...@craftyjon.com >>> >>> <mailto:j...@craftyjon.com> <mailto:j...@craftyjon.com >>> >>> <mailto:j...@craftyjon.com>>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> That sounds like a bug (if there is invalid data like that, >>> >>> we should deal with it in a better way) >>> >>> It sounds like it might be easy to make a trivial test case >>> >>> to attach to a bug report without using your employer's board as-is >>> >>> (maybe by removing everything manually from the kicad_pcb >>> >>> file except for the hole in question and the board outline?) >>> >>> >>> >>> I can't take a look at this right this moment, but I could >>> >>> in the next few days if no one else jumps on it first. >>> >>> >>> >>> -Jon >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:35 PM, Michael McCormack >>> >>> <m...@artpoe.com <mailto:m...@artpoe.com> <mailto:m...@artpoe.com >>> >>> <mailto:m...@artpoe.com>>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> This might not be quite the right place to post this, >>> >>> but, I've found something that is a slightly problematic with Kicad and >>> >>> board file. I have a PCB that has a NPH hole located off the board, I >>> >>> can't see it or select it inside PCBNew, however, it gets a hole in the >>> >>> gerbers and I can find it in the kicad_pcb file if I open the file with >>> >>> a text editor. >>> >>> >>> >>> As it is my employer's board, I can't see them being OK >>> >>> with me creating a bug report and posting the board file for just >>> >>> anyone to see; but, as I have used Kicad myself probably a decade I'd >>> >>> send it to someone to evaluate if it would help the project. >>> >>> >>> >>> Is anyone interested? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jean-Pierre CHARRAS >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> >>> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >>> <mailto:kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net> >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> <https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> >>> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >>> <mailto:kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net> >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> <https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> >> >> > >
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