I believe the US sizes are provided by the ASME Y14.1-2005 standard. Or at least that seems to be the generic standard for these that I can find (I didn't see anything for ANSI or IEEE).
-Ian On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 6:37 PM Evan Shultz <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Seth! > > I didn't find the default template when looking at the code base, but I'm > sure it's there and I just didn't find it. So if things are left alone > hopefully the packager people will automatically include them? Then > hopefully this message thread will make the packagers aware of new > templates. > > I could add more wishlist items, but you mentioned some key ones. I > believe it would be best to create a launchpad bug for this so it can be > tracked and doesn't get buried in the mailing list. > > The small and large title blocks are both useful, as is having or not > having revision history, so that means at least four templates. But because > the ISO spec defines variations based on page size, for example the number > of subdivisions of the border sides, I do not believe it would be possible > to auto-scale and collapse the number of templates while still strictly > meeting the ISO standard. > > The ISO standard only defines A page sizes. I understand your comment > about providing US page sizes but they aren't part of the standard. > > Evan > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 10:16 AM Seth Hillbrand <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> On 11/13/19 9:19 AM, Evan Shultz wrote: >> >> Seth, >> >> Yes, these templates are sized specifically for certain page sizes as >> defined in the ISO specification. And also for particular sheet >> orientations. So in Eeschema, the user needs to select the page size and >> orientation that match the template in order for the scaling to be proper >> and the template to be rendered such that it meets the ISO specification. >> >> Even if manual work is required to properly use these tempates, perhaps >> it might be useful to still include them? >> >> In addition, during the review of the templates we discovered limitations >> such as what you mentioned above. I can understand if the best solution for >> now is only a stopgap, and I'm happy to submit a feature request for an >> enhancement for this area of Eeschema, with the details to be sorted out >> later as to not derail the main objective of this message. >> >> Thank you! >> >> >> The process for inclusion would be managed by the individual >> distributions. I assume that they pull from the kicad-templates repository >> by default. >> >> Currently, the extra templates are installed at the same directory level >> as the default template. This is cluttered and mixes all different kinds >> of templates together. We should definitely address this. Simple >> subdirectories for page layout options other than the default should be >> considered in the templates CMake >> >> The wishlist items for the code I see are: >> >> - Adding the Revisions block as an optional item in the layout format >> - Adding support for graphical items referenced to page center >> >> With these two items, we should be able to collapse these templates into >> a single, standard (or two if you wanted the basic 180mm and an alternate >> compressed version for the Title block. >> >> For the templates, if we are adding templates per size, it would be good >> to add standard A/B/C sizes as well. US KiCad users do not have easy >> access to either A4 paper or (harder) A4 printers. >> >> Best- >> Seth >> >> -- >> KiCad Services Corporation [image: KiCad Services Corporation Logo] >> Seth Hillbrand >> *Lead Developer* >> +1-530-302-5483 <+12126039372> >> Davis, CA >> www.kipro-pcb.com [email protected] >> https://twitter.com/KiProEDA <https://twitter.com/KiProEDA> >> https://www.linkedin.com/company/kicad >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/kicad> >> > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >
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