Hello! On 30/06/2020 18.46, Jon Evans wrote: > Give this issue a thumbs up: https://gitlab.com/kicad/code/kicad/-/issues/4763
Just some additions to this issue's desired features: > 1. Capture the entire project state into a single backup archive (.zip file) ...including a timestamp in the .zip's or folder's name (outside of your VCS' visibility). > 2. Configurable (turn the entire feature on or off, and control how many > backups to keep > 3. Store backups in a configurable location (default: a subdirectory of the > project, like ./projectname-backups/) > 4. Automatically save backups at some configurable interval (every N hours or > days, maybe) -- NOT every time you save a file ... every minute(s)! In the case KiCad crashes I can hardly remember the last 10 minutes of work I did. Additionally: It might useful to save on each CreateUndoEntry to be able to reconstruct the a crash for debug purposes. > 5. A feature (in project manager, probably) to restore a project's state from > a given backup archive Thanks, Clemens > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 12:21 PM Diego Herranz > <diegoherr...@diegoherranz.com> wrote: >> >> This possibility to save the last N backups would be useful. It is what >> Altium does more or less and it has proven useful to me in the past. >> Especially if you change your mind after 2h working on something which is >> not going anywhere :) >> >> Thanks, >> Diego >> >> On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 15:15, Wayne Stambaugh <stambau...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Sounds like a great solution to me. >>> >>> On 6/30/20 10:12 AM, Jon Evans wrote: >>>> JP, I agree that true backups are useful. >>>> >>>> Maybe even it is a good idea for KiCad to have a built-in backup function. >>>> >>>> I just don't think the current backup function is actually useful >>>> because of my first point (backups are overwritten on each save). >>>> >>>> I would propose: >>>> >>>> 1) Remove the current backup file generation >>>> >>>> 2) Create a spec (in GitLab issue) for a better backup system that: >>>> >>>> - Can be turned on or off >>>> - Backs up the whole project in a zip file >>>> - Can keep the last N backups >>>> - Runs on a schedule, not necessarily every time you click Save. >>>> >>>> Anyone opposed to this? >>>> >>>> -Jon >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 3:32 AM jp charras <jp.char...@wanadoo.fr> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Le 30/06/2020 à 00:13, hauptmech a écrit : >>>>>> >>>>>> While I agree that it is not KiCad's job to do archival backups or >>>>>> version control, I do think that KiCad should preserve the integrity of >>>>>> users data through a crash. Even better if the work between the last >>>>>> save and the crash is also preserved and recovered on restart. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have had to use the backup files to recover data in the past. I have >>>>>> no idea if that recovery was related to something that is now no longer >>>>>> a possible issue. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -Hauptmech >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I am also thinking a backup can be useful when something unexpected >>>>> happens. >>>>> >>>>> Backups, like any security system, bothers you as long as you do not need >>>>> to use them. >>>>> But you are happy to find them in case of trouble. >>>>> >>>>> I like the way some CAD tools manage backup: >>>>> only one zip archive is created (for instance projectname_backup.zip) and >>>>> contains all saved files >>>>> (in our case: *.kicad_sch (and sub paths) and .kicad_pcb) >>>>> This is not a full project backup, just main files are saved. >>>>> >>>>> This is not invasive (only one file, or a few .zip if one want to keep >>>>> last n saved versions) >>>>> and is a security against unexpected cases. >>>>> >>>>> For me, backups are like a accident insurance: you need them and you hope >>>>> never use them. >>>>> >>>>> And about VCS use: >>>>> >>>>> Many good electronics guys do not even know what is it, and have never >>>>> compiled any source code. >>>>> Electronics world and Software world are not exactly the same world. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Jean-Pierre CHARRAS >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>>> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
