--- In [email protected], "Andy Ehlers" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have been involved in a many contracts from long distance and 
except
> for 1 or 2 they have been a nightmare for both parties. (time
> deference's, design changes, communication snafu's etc) Although I
> understand outsourcing is a good thing from a budgetary standpoint 
from
> a functional standpoint they can be difficult at best and when the 
final
> tally is done sometimes are actually more expensive. Since Kicad 
is not
> a widely used commercial product yet. Your requirement of having 
the
> layout in Kicad may not be possible while requiring a professional 
and
> experienced layout person. This is not to say that my fellow Kicad 
users
> are not professionals and good at what they do. Just that they 
probably
> don't use Kicad professionally. I have been designing boards out 
here in
> San Jose for about 20 years both as a contractor and employee and
> although I would love to do a board for you I would not be doing 
it as a
> priority. This is because I use the Mentor Graphics Expedition 
tool set
> professionally and Kicad at home for smaller quick turn circuitry
> (hobby, test fixturing for work, and smaller interface circuitry 
that
> does not require full blown documentation and DRC/EMI analysis).
> Therefore I would doing it while watching the Sharks on TV at 
night or
> on weekends between the kids soccer games. Which obviously is not 
what
> you want or need. I am probably not the only one thinking this, 
which
> may be why you have received no response. If this is for a 
commercial
> product, I hate to write this, but, Kicad may not be ready for 
you. This
> is not to say that Kicad can't do it, just your variables and 
Kicad may
> not be a good match at this time.
>  
> Just an opinion.
>  
> AndyE
> San Jose,Ca

Thanks for the feedback and your honesty. I agree that it is a long 
shot.

Regarding KiCad, on more than one occasion I have questioned whether 
we made the right decision going with KiCad. We were burdened by the 
fact that we needed 3 seats and none of the "professional" packages 
were economically viable at that time.

While I still have reservations, now that I am making a point to 
create every component in my own library before using things are 
flowing much, much better. There are still some 
bugs/features/strange behaviors that bother us, but it looks like it 
will be OK for schematic capture.

Board layout, however, is a different matter. While we did an 
initial evaluation, it is still unproven in our eyes. If we 
outsourced the layout to someone who could do it in KiCad, then we 
would forever be able to tweak it if need be.

Regards,

apluscw

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