El Domingo 25 Marzo 2007 06:08, Geert Vancompernolle escribió:
> --- In [email protected], Nagy László <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Üdv Minden magyarnyelvű felhasználónak!
> >
> > Felajánlom csevegésre a fórumomat a kicad-del ismerkedÅ`knek és
> > érdeklÅ`dÅ`knek, no meg a profiknak is.
>
> http://www.startolj.hu/elektronika/forum/index.php?action=vtopic&forum=11
>
> > Tisztelettel:
> > Nagy László (biglackó)
> > Nagykozár (Pécs+1km)

<just trying to show other point of view - no trolling intended>

> Sorry to say, but this is not a "healthy" evolution.  I've seen
> already quite a few "stand alone" KiCad forums rising up for different
> countries/languages.  Most (if not, all) of them completely not
> understandable for me (and I'm sure for a lot of other people too).
>
> I've already said this before, but this way, lots of useful
> information for other KiCad users will "vanish in the haze" because of
> not "language not understandable".
> Lots of information will be spread (or better, cluttered) over
> different fora and that's bad...

Well, that's how people who doesn't speak nor read english feels... specialy 
when they have to ask other people to translate what those places says 
because they can't understand. Quite frustrating :-(

> We're all engineers, I suppose, so English (even if it's "broken
> English") should normally not be a problem to read, understand and
> --especially-- help each other.  Better "broken English" than "superb
> Swahili", just to name some language...

Well, sad to say, but no, no all engineers speak english (nor even broken 
broken english). I now, in some places it may sound _strange_, but it's just 
the reality.

> The reason lots of people are using to justify the creation of a forum
> in their own mother tongue, is the "English language barrier".  But
> even for, English is not my mother tongue (I'm Belgian, so Dutch is...).
> But at least I can understand (and possibly help) people from Italy,
> Spain, Brazil, Sweden, Argentine, ... you name it, as long as they
> communicate in English.

Well, you are Belgian, you were born at least 700 km away from another place 
in which another languague is spoken. Now, if you think in countrys like 
Argentina, the nearest country which speaks another language is Brazil (and, 
for most of our pupulation, that will be more than 1000 km away). 
The next non-spanish speaken country would be EEUU, or perhaps Europe, or some 
country from Africa.

What I am trying to say it's that (I guess) I do understand what Geert is 
feeling, but I can't think in the same way.
Not knowing another language in Europe may sound like lizeness, but not 
here :-(. And yes, we do encourage students to learn english, but it is not 
always possible.

Being part of a Lug, I found that giving support / forming communities in the 
mother tongue always worked far much better than other thing. Yes, the 
problem of duplicating content is there. But that's part of the game, and, to 
the extent of what libre software thought me, the community itself does it 
best to remedy it. Even if duplicated work has to be done.

</just trying to show other point of view - no trolling intended>

Regards, Lisandro.

-- 
Military intelligence is a contradiction in terms.
 -- Groucho Marx

Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
http://perezmeyer.com.ar/

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