Ahh..

another file has appeared in the list, prob yahoo being a bit slow here.

That one looks a lot better.

I'll contact you off list re a file.


Andy




On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 13:20:10 -0000
"Jos" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Andy,
> 
> It is this file;      HP-403 PSU-brd.pdf 
> 
> If possible can you send me a small file with a sample of one of
> your boards?
> So I can see on my pc if there is a difference.
> I like to have some more substance in my pads.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Jos
> 
> --- In [email protected], Andy Eskelson <andyya...@...> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry to say but they don't look all that much different...
> > 
> > Could be me of course, 
> > 
> > Andy
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:18:51 -0000
> > "Jos" <jos.ra...@...> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > I have uploaded a modified board, HP-403 PSU.pdf to the files section.
> > > 
> > > Have a look at this.
> > > I had to edit all modules and enlarge the pads.
> > > 
> > > How does this look to you?
> > > 
> > > Jos
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], Andy Eskelson <andyyahoo@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > I have just measured the output of a unit.
> > > > 
> > > > I used a previous PCB I had designed that used a TO220 device.
> > > > 
> > > > That used both round and square pads. From module editor the pad sizes
> > > > were 0.07" for both the square and round.
> > > > 
> > > > I printed this as a postscript file to the printer, (I use a OKI C5400)
> > > > 
> > > > I then scanned the area around the TO220 at 1200dpi using the flatbed.
> > > > 
> > > > Counting the pixels I get 86 pixels across both the square and round
> > > > pads. That works out at 0.0716" which is bang on correct as far as the
> > > > measurement method goes.
> > > > 
> > > > So in the postscript output the pad sizes are correct as stated in the
> > > > module editor.
> > > > 
> > > > I agree that the pads do LOOK a bit thin and small, but that's how they
> > > > are designed. If you can do the same sort of measurment you could find
> > > > out if your output is really wrong.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Andy
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:27:58 -0000
> > > > "Jos" <jos.raven@> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > You are right Andy,
> > > > > I find the dimensions for the track also to be a little thin.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The print is mate for true scale to a PDF printer in the printer 
> > > > > setup from Win XP.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Here at home I print directly to a laserjet 5si, also in true scale.
> > > > > I mirror the copper, as you might have noticed, for printing on 
> > > > > transparent. Then the toner makes direct contact with the copper of 
> > > > > the PCB and light will not spill over.
> > > > > 
> > > > > But everything is a bit undersized.
> > > > > I used to work with Ultiboard some 10 years back.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Jos PA0AMX
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In [email protected], Andy Eskelson <andyyahoo@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The pads look fairly normal to me but...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > How did you print them out, be careful about this as there are 
> > > > > > several
> > > > > > printing options. There are options for a rough print, useful for
> > > > > > checking, but the dimensions will not be exact. There is an exact 
> > > > > > print
> > > > > > option which you would use for photo resist films. Under the print
> > > > > > options. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > There are other options to print under the plot menu either the 
> > > > > > full size
> > > > > > drill or just a drilling mark. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > For things like the one pin connector which I think you have used, 
> > > > > > I find
> > > > > > that the defined drill size leaves far too little copper, so I 
> > > > > > always
> > > > > > change that. I also plot to postscript for the main output and set 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > drill to just be a point rather than full size as for home workshop 
> > > > > > use
> > > > > > that provides a nice centre point for the drill bit to follow.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I don't get the effect you see here, so perhaps it's a display/grid 
> > > > > > size
> > > > > > thing. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > As a general observation I would be inclined to beef up the track 
> > > > > > widths
> > > > > > you are using. You will find that they are very thin, and in my 
> > > > > > opinion a
> > > > > > bit too thin for a 1A regulator.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Andy 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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