Tnx for the comment. Flow has an onboard WiFi that is installed on the Gumstix Overo (including the Bluetooth)
About the name. We don't care really. When we release it we shall post in the right channels to get the word around. _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tobias Gogolin Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 10:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [kicad-users] Something Complex & Cool on KiCad >"Wishing" for a component I think is NOT the best solution. Just a mechanism >for "Sharing" components would be good. So if I have a Library of components >I want to share then I just click "Share" and that goes to the repository. >If I would then want to search for a components I would search (from KiCad) >in that repository. I agree and congratulate on the uptake of these efforts! I also wonder how these remote components, (schematic symbols, padstacks, and 3D models) could be integrated with what is currently managed as Packages (I would almost prefer something like directory structures (user manageable) similar to Jar files)? There may be an interface for the plugin: a virtual library package remoteLibrary.xyz ? Regarding the FLOW open source phone, how does it do wifi? Via USB dongle? By the way FLOW as a project name is not necessary search engine optimized... On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Demetris Zavorotnichenko <fgcity4...@cytanet. <mailto:[email protected]> com.cy> wrote: :) hi, glad you have so many questions :) So let's take one at a time: Q: As of the schematics will be released, would there also released the more complex libraries created like the CPU? A: The "Computing" part of the FLOW is the Gumstix Overo series which is based on the OMAP processor and they don't release their schematics. This is the only part that is not Open Source (as stated on the website) The schematics are already being released part by part until we release the device. You can already download the Main Schema in the Download section. Q: If these components get collected together, it would probably boost the usage of KICAD and also save time because the components created could be reused. A: We are putting together the library we use with many cool components such as the Telit Series of GSM - 3G modules, GPS modules, Level translators and basically all the components we use. Q: I know there is a library site that lists existing components, but would it also cool to have a wish list and a list who is working at which library or component to be released? Also the list could be made database aware and an interface in KICAD could be made to update the local libraries with these in the database. A: Did you go to our website? We have the "Queue" which does exactly that, as long as you have made a wish as described on the website in the "How It Works" section. About the plugin mechanism. If KiCad has the ability to have a plug-in for wishing components then I don't see any reason not to do it. Wishing for something usually requires that in "SOME" stage someone actually takes a look at that wish and makes it. So that someone would want to get paid for it. "Wishing" for a component I think is NOT the best solution. Just a mechanism for "Sharing" components would be good. So if I have a Library of components I want to share then I just click "Share" and that goes to the repository. If I would then want to search for a components I would search (from KiCad) in that repository. Also a cool feature would be to do the same thing with 3D models. We used the 3D model feature extensively when building the FLOW to make sure that everything aligns properly for the enclosure and that everything fits in general. Hope this answers your questions. -----Original Message----- From: kicad-users@ <mailto:[email protected]> yahoogroups.com [mailto:kicad-users@ <mailto:[email protected]> yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lothar Behrens Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 10:07 AM To: kicad-users@ <mailto:[email protected]> yahoogroups.com Cc: Tobias Gogolin Subject: Re: [kicad-users] Something Complex & Cool on KiCad Hi, this is very interesting :-) As of the schematics will be released, would there also released the more complex libraries created like the CPU? If these components get collected together, it would propably boost the usage of KICAD and also save time because the components created could be reused. I know there is a library site that lists existing components, but would it also cool to have a wish list and a list who is working at which library or component to be released? Also the list could be made database aware and an interface in KICAD could be made to update the local libraries with these in the database. So with a database the searching could become very powerful, like getting replacement components (if entered in the database). I have read a thread about wishing a web based sharing mechanism: From Tobias Gogolin 'Library parts sharing online ?' I could help with that when the following topics are met: * KICAD supports a plugin mechanism - or even the wxWidgets plugins * KICAD supports a reserved range of ID's for dynamically created event handlers * The KICAD project will create a database for it's project at sf * Database model will be entered via UML and therefore * Discussion about the database and functionality could be done with a real database (with a prototype I could provide from the UML model) * Missing prototype features like storing files in the database (BLOB's) will be developed to complete the prototype to make it usable for this When the prototype is ready and seems to be modelled regarding the requirements, code could be generated. The code then should fit into the plugin mechanism of KICAD or wxWidgets. A simple prototype could be created in minutes! Currently, code generation works for a simple PHP web application (P4A), wxWidgets based forms (hardcoded / XRC / DialogBlocks project), wxLua. XML is used with XSLT to generate code, thus it will be open to generate what you like :-) What do you think? Thanks Lothar Am 29.04.2009 um 23:07 schrieb Demetris: > > > > Hi everyone. We have been hearing allot about people wanting to see > something complex made with KiCad so we thought of letting everyone > know that all of our Gizmos are made in KiCad. > > > > The most Complex thing we ever done in this wonderful software is > our latest project (scheduled to be released as a BETA in May 11 - > 15) the FLOW. A complete Open Source PDA/Phone with Android, 3G, GPS > and many more cool features. We are releasing the schematics piece > by piece until we release the FLOW so check it out. > > > > Have in mind that ALL our Gizmos are made with KiCad so that should > give an idea to the people beginning with Schematic design about > what can actually be done with this software. > > > > You can find out more about the FLOW and other Gizmos we made > atwww.gizmoforyou. <http://atwww.gizmoforyou.com> com > > > > Yours truly, Demetris Z. (Community Moderator) > > > -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisof <http://www.lollisoft.de> t.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ------------------------------------ Please read the Kicad FAQ in the group files section before posting your question. Please post your bug reports here. They will be picked up by the creator of Kicad. Please visit http://www.kicadlib <http://www.kicadlib.org> .org for details of how to contribute your symbols/modules to the kicad library. 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