On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 6:28 PM, NeonJohn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Let's try this again. Maybe it didn't go out the first time.
>
> -----
>
> Is there any way to move a trace from one layer to another without
> having to redraw the trace? This would seem to be a simple thing to do
> but for the life of me, I can't figure out how. Even after multiple RTFMs.
>
> While I'm asking questions, is there a faster way to enter NEW trace
> widths than having to hit Dimensions->tracks and vias?
>
> Thanks,
> John
>

John:

I think this went out fine the first time; I'm just not sure that
anybody has a good answer.  I haven't really used the PCB program yet,
but if it's anything like eeschema, it is, in some ways, still a bit
immature.  For example, in eeschema, trying to cut a schematic section
from one page and paste it onto another page is a bit more complicated
than it ought to be, and will lose all your reference designators.

I saw that you are coming from expresspcb.com, and I share your pain.
expresspcb has a nice package for laying out boards (with no real DRC)
-- I tell my co-workers it's a "drawing program."  Their prices are
reasonable, they boards are fine, and if it weren't for their paranoia
that locks your data up, I would consider them perfect for small
designs.  For one thing, your current issue of "move a trace to
another layer" is, as you know, a single button press in expresspcb.
For another thing, components (KiCad "modules") can be made on the
fly.  Lay down a few pads and some silk, and then say "hey, I want to
use this again -- make a component out of it for me."  Simple and
effective.

Personally, though, I think that the kicad developers have a better
shot at creating the sort of UI that I would like to see than the
(otherwise more mature) geda project.  Every time I've played with
geda, I come away mystified.  At least with kicad, I have gotten some
useful work done in a reasonable amount of time.

So I'm moving slowly towards kicad.  For now, I'm still using
expresspcb on a few boards, but I am doing the schematics in eeschema.
 I have written a utility (available at kipy.org) that will dump my
kicad schematic into a netlist that expresspcb can use.  At least then
I can visually check inside expresspcb that all the pins on each net
are hooked up properly according to my schematic.

So long term, I think they will get there.  Short term, though, the UI
probably isn't as productive as what you are used to.

Best regards,
Pat

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