Satuju pisan Abah Tirta Widjaja _____
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tirta widjaja Sent: July 29, 2008 08:38 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [kisunda] Re: (Serat :15)(SILIWANGI & KI SANTANG)_Ageman Sri Badu ga Maharaja Tah geuning dugi oge kana opsi kahiji topik nu diusulkeun. Para wargi mangga atuh kapan tos digoongan ku Ambu, diskusi ulah sieun2 ulah "hard feeling". Urang ngobrolkeun masa lalu "as is". Tips ti sim kuring, sakumaha sasensitif2na masalah dibahas emut we lah kana "three men and an elephant". Haturan (he...he...punten sanes moderator nya) JP ----- Original Message ---- From: richadiana kartakusuma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:30:59 Subject: Re: [kisunda] Re: (Serat :15)(SILIWANGI & KI SANTANG)_Ageman Sri Badu ga Maharaja eta versi naskah oge tradisi lisan, naskah oge tradiosi lisan teh dicarioskeun turun tumurun, tiap mangsa aya subyektifna janen kdah ditimngali heula sumberna anu leres, terasdiuji heula dibandingkeun sareng naskah2 perkawis Sri Baduga, kempelkeun sa-seu-eur2na ditingali jejerkeun - bandingkeun ku oposisi binari, kaluarkeun variant sareg variabel tiap2naskah atanapi arita lisan nu beredar di masyarakat tina tiap2 periode > ieu metode na nyaeta Filologi tea. leres memang Subanglarang teg Islam ditikah harita ku Sri baduga, ngan nyuhunkeun sarat supados anjeuna (subanglarang) tetep ngagem Islam.....mung Sri Baduga na mah tetep agama Sunda ! Teu pisan2 ngalih ka Islam...teu aya buktosna. Pami leres Sri Baduga lebet Islam, naha atuh incuna make ngudag2, naha atuh incuna nu ti Cirebon bet ngawangun sekutu sareng Dmak, Banten ngan ku sabab merangan anu "KAFIR" Mun leres Sri Baduga lebet Islam, naha atuh bet ngaluarkeun PITEKET anu ngokolakeun KABUYUTAN2 di sabudeureun Tatar Sunda harita, oge jetre diterangkeun en eta KABUYUTAN teh PIGEUSANEUN KAMI PARA RATU - SAHA2 ANU WANI NGAGUNASIKA KU AING DITITAH DIPAEHAN.... mangga aos ku anjeun prasastina - aya keneh ngabelegedeg dugi ka ayeuna di Museum Nasional Mun leres Sri Baduga Islam, naha atuh bet ngawangun KABUYUTAN BATUTULIS (totonden na mangrupi prasasti anu dikaluarkeun ku putrana) > situsna nu ayeuna mung ukur sesa tapi nu leres mah langkung luas ti ayeuna tutugna dugi ka Lawang Gintung Mun leres Sri Baduga Islam, naha atuh bet disebatkeun MOKSA di sawah tampian dalem naha atuh teu disebat wafat atau berpulang teras ku aksara Arab (pa harita Islam tos sumebar di Tatar Sunda) naha teu kitu? cing punten waler! Dina prasasti BATUTULIS gelar lengkap - resmi sri baduga teh SRI BADUGA MAHARAJA SRI SANG RATU DEWATA RATU HAJI DI PAKWAN PAJAJARAN punten tingali haji didinya hartosna HAJI ku hartos ayeuna nyaeta HAJI NU KA MEKAH ..... tapi hartosna sebutan kata RAJA dalam pengertian harfiah HAJI dalam pengertian harfiah oge disebat - dina prasasti Kebon kopi dua (654 = revisi angka tahun atas pembacaan ulang) anu harita ISLAM teu acan aya di Tatar Sunda > Rakryan Juru Pangambat - oge dina prasasti Sanghiyang tapak (1032) > Jayabhupati Janten jelas HAJI dina prasasti2 kalebet oge HAJI dina prasasti Batutulis (Sri Baduga) sanes hartosna HAJI anu ditakbirkeun di mekah (ARAB) tapi HAJI = RAJA Mangga diantos waleranana.. .urang sarreng diskusi terbuka didieu...ayeuna keneh. Tabe pun Ambu Wirumananggay ----- Original Message ---- From: ednugraha <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 12:59:22 PM Subject: [kisunda] Re: (Serat :15)(SILIWANGI & KI SANTANG)_Ageman Sri Badu ga Maharaja He..he.. Mang H...sanes kitu ah...ieu dongeng Kang Nonggerak teu acan tamat.... upami numutkeun versi yen Sri baduga teh jaya dewata nu nikah ka Subang larang nu cenah tos muslimat. logika Sri baduga lebet islam bisa jadi leres/lepat margi dina hukum islam pan teu kenging muslimat nikah ka non muslim. Sareng deui dongeng terakhir Kang Nonggerak teu acan sacara langsung nyebat Sri baduga lebet islam. nembe 'kataji'. janten terlalu 'dini' menyimpulkan. punten pisan upami 'kesanna' abdi ngabela tatamu. baktosna eddy Nugraha --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com <mailto:kisunda%40yahoogroups.com> , mh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hahaha, hanas ambu, juragan edi nugraha molotan uing, tah ieu geuning hasilna. > wilujeng. > > salam, > mh > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:54 AM, ua duq <dudi.herlianto@ ...> wrote: > > tah geuning, embah nong aya nu ngayonan. hayu atuh mbah kaluarkeun eusi > > kanjutkundangna. timana embah bisa nyimpulkeun baduga teh nepi ka ngudupruk? > > bisi jiga inum elizabet tampa cendol haha... > > > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 10:44 AM, richadiana kartakusuma > > <richadianakartakus [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> upami hoyong uninga atanapi ngobrol sajarah oge KARUHUN SUNDA, dengan izin > >> dan atas nama milist KISUNDA.... hayu ka abdi, palay naon bae moal > >> dipeditkeun satungtung ka Urang Sunda mah....tapi omat ulah ngarang > >> sorangan, abdi ge teu wantun ngarang pangalaman karuhun mah...malaur > >> tideuhak !!!!!!!!!!!! !! > >> > >> AMBU Wirumananggay > >> > >> ----- Original Message ---- > >> From: "Dirgahayu, Rachman" <rachman.dirgahayu@ ...> > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com <mailto:kisunda%40yahoogroups.com> > >> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 8:52:14 AM > >> Subject: RE: [kisunda] (Serat :15)(SILIWANGI & KI SANTANG)_Ageman Sri Badu > >> ga Maharaja. > >> > >> Aya naon Ambu ???? 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