AA: Hahahaha, atuh upami teureuh ti Dalem Sawidak mah sami sajangga wareng, turunan Sukapura. Nuhun atuh ditepangkeun
--- On Thu, 11/13/08, Roza Rahmadjasa Mintaredja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Roza Rahmadjasa Mintaredja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [kisunda] Re: KG AA, Ambu bade manggung di TMII To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 11:36 PM hiiiiiiih, apanan tos puuuuguh sami2 US na, kg AA anu bageuuur, asa dulur pet ku hinis US mah tos sakedahna, sateureuh, sagetih...SUNDA! katampi piiisan, sami2 urg ngangken sobat mah... kooomo ti Garut mah, saur uyut(ti pun biang) uin di Cigombong-Bogor (alm) sok sering ngayakeun ririungan wargi Galuh, baheula teh... saurna ti Eyang Pangeran Sawidak Lima.... duka babadna mah rada pareumeun obor uin teh... da baheula mah, ku gelarna, sanes atanapi arang langka ku nami asli manawi kantos ngadangu? he33x! ....oca tea... --- On Thu, 11/13/08, Abbas Amin <abas_amin08@ yahoo.com> wrote: From: Abbas Amin <abas_amin08@ yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [kisunda] Re: KG AA, Ambu bade manggung di TMII To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 3:20 PM AA: Nuhun pisan ka na pangangkenna; sareng nyuhunkeun dihapunten deui bae, upami waleran abdi rada nyigeung saeutik.. Nya atuh komentar tea kulan. Tapi da abdi mah nujukeun ka na seratanana sanes ka diri pribadi kang Oca, kulan. Abdi oge hoyong atuh janten sobt sareng kang Oca teh --- On Thu, 11/13/08, Roza Rahmadjasa Mintaredja <roza.kalasunda@ yahoo.com> wrote: From: Roza Rahmadjasa Mintaredja <roza.kalasunda@ yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [kisunda] Re: KG AA, Ambu bade manggung di TMII To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 10:52 PM emh..... Alhamdulillah wa syukurillah kg AA..... uin reueus... yen aya dulur di sabrang, dk sabaraha lami di pangbuaran teh? da biasana mah US sok ka aku di-mana2 ku alatan darehdeh lan someahna. malah sok rada nyongcolang cenah, muga we ath kidulur janten walikota...hehe da palsapah US tea atuuuh... pasukan Siliiiwangi, ... sa-eeeeutik ge maahi....! mangga wilujeng gabung sareng dulur urg keneh Kuta- KartaNagara. cag! rampes nun. he33x! ....oca tea... --- On Thu, 11/13/08, Abbas Amin <abas_amin08@ yahoo.com> wrote: From: Abbas Amin <abas_amin08@ yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [kisunda] Re: KG AA, Ambu bade manggung di TMII To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 2:29 PM AA: Nuhun katampi pisan kang Oca. Abdi mah sok ngomentaran hiji tulisan langsung sapada harita; tah ku margi atos ngomntar, nyuhunkeun dihapunten masalah arrogansi nya !? Da abdi mah kumaha ningal seratan beee. Tah nu ieu nuhun pisan sareng mugi sing ageung nawakup. Nuhun. Abbas Amin tea, asal Sunda ayeuna mukim di Kaltim. Piraku atuh urang sabrang wae nu mukim di Sunda, sanes ? Kapan pak Ucu Suparta nu asli Sunda kapungkur jantn Walikota Di Balikpapan --- On Thu, 11/13/08, Roza Rahmadjasa Mintaredja <roza.....kalasunda@ yahoo..com> wrote: From: Roza Rahmadjasa Mintaredja <roza.kalasunda@ yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [kisunda] Re: KG AA, Ambu bade manggung di TMII To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 10:05 PM barayaaaa sadayaaaa... ... uin ngiring mairan patarosan kg AA anu sakitu kritisna... sasieureun sabeunyeureun. ...silih simbeuhan... manawi.. Kumargi sipat patarosan nganggo term monoteisme anyar, aya sakedik perbentenan dina titincakan pamiangan sual wangunan patarosan. Dina masalah sajarah agama jeung sajarah evolusi manusia anu lumaku universal. aya pagedrug atawa friksi anu can aya titik temu, malah sewang2an. conto: Nabi Adam 'ragrag kadunya' 5872 SM (Sami bin Abdullah bin al -Maghluts,Atlas Tarikh al-Anbiya wa al-Rusul kaca 44- 1426.H/2005. . . M,Obaikan Saudi Arabia, cet. ka VI) eta numutkeun sajarah agama. anu lumaku di Timur tengah-Arab. Semitis tea. Dina term monoteisme heubeul, aturan term monoteisma-anyar teu lumaku. sok sanajan sarua dina hakekat monoteisna.da etamah kayakinan sa-dirieun tea apanan. Sabab Bangsa Sunda leuwih kolot ti abad ka 7, paling 'ngora' na oge abad ka hiji Masehi be, mun rek pa-kolot2 supa mah, 6 abad samemeh Islam gubrag ka dunya. cara gampangna ? Diwangsulkeun deui patarosanana anu sa-term, keur monoteisme anyar, * Ari Nabi Adam kitab Sucina aya? Naon ngaranna? aya sabaraha juz, sabaraha ayat.? Perawi haditsna saha? Mana Haditsna? Kumaha cara ngabukukeunana. ? Sabenerna tos gugur sorangan, tah patarosan teh! Adam di-imanan dina rukun Iman, dina bag-bagan percaya ka Nabi anu 25 tea. Naha urg uninga ka sakabeh ngaran 21 Kitab Suci sesa para nabi anu 25, mangrupa konsekwensi logis ti patarosan kg AA.anu ngan uninga ngaran 4 kitab suci. Sedengkeun Urang/Bangsa Sunda, numutkeun teori homo sapien(manusa modern), geus aya didunya kl 125.000 taun katukang, bungkeuleuk ti data anu geus kapanggih... . komo Phitecantropus Erectus(Manusia berbudaya, berdiri tegak) mah, tangkurakna umur 1,7 yuta taun. Jaaaauuuuuhhhh ....samemeh manusia pertama versi agama. Bangsa Sunda parantos gumelar ka alam dunya anu parantos kaguar ku pananggalan Sunda kabuktian ku papanggihan Ir CJ Schneider-astronom Walanda, yen Pawukon kalender Sunda ayana di pulo Jawa dina itungan Masehi mah 17.208 taun katukang. Dina harti, budaya Sunda geus bisa maca tulis jeung ngitung,( kalender unsur matematik dina astronomi).pasti leuwih ti 18.000taun umurna, nu matak ceuk ahli geologi mah 50rewu taun teh di ngorakeun dina pamendak anu terakhir, penghuni gunung Sunda ayana 125.000 taun katukang.??? Buktosna? Wayahna mun waleran ti kidulur kg Ilen, moal asup kerangka pamikiran patarosan term anyar tea... Eta patarosan kg AA, ngawakilan ti sakabeh patarosan term anyar, anu parantos diteuleuman ku uin..Hal ieu sanes bade silih salah keun, komo silih gorengkeun mah, lamun urang arek dina niat silih benerkeun mah, kumaha mun...Lakum dieenukum waliyaddieen beee.... matakna uin panuju ka waleran dua kidulur bieu, kg Shandy srg kg Ilen, dina nyiar pagawean kamanusaan be, anu utama mah atuh, meureun eta , prakna anu make palsapah rahmatan lil alamin ti Islam, sinergikeun jeung palsapah tri silas ti Sunda tea, anu ngarupakeun solusi bersamana mah dia tangtungan satata, sariksa ,sabanda...why not? cag! Rampes nun,...rampa salira... he33x! ....oca tea... --- On Thu, 11/13/08, ilen kardani <[EMAIL PROTECTED] oilfield. Slb.Com> wrote: From: ilen kardani <[EMAIL PROTECTED] oilfield. Slb.Com> Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [kisunda] Re: Ambu bade manggung di TMII To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 7:22 AM Dibulaoan ku sim kuring, sakedik was kanggo tilam kasono kasadayana, nuju resep bulao ieu teh, nunjung wiru. --- On Wed, 11/12/08, Abbas Amin <abas_amin08@ yahoo.com> wrote: From: Abbas Amin <abas_amin08@ yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [kisunda] Re: Ambu bade manggung di TMII To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 2:26 AM AA: Euh kitu, mangga teu langkung, bade ti na naon heula ayeuna ? Da abdi oge hoyong terang ka na Agama Sunda teh, janten patarosan ti jisim abdi tadina mah moal ngaganggu Ambu, lantaran cenah bade medar di TMII; tah ku margi ambu tos mashan kasempetan ka abdi, nuhun pisan atuh. 1. Naon ari Agama Sunda ? Tata aturan kapercayaan anu jadi ageman Urang Sunda pituin, saencan datangna agama2 ti luar 2. Saha nu dijantenkeun Rabb na ? Pangeran Nu Murbeng Alam, saha we ngarana mah kumaha nu nyebut, da teu nyaur manuk Anjeuna mah 3. Aya Nabina teu aya ? Pami nu dimaksad nabi teh utusan Pangeran, moal aya Urang Parahyangan nu umaku jadi utusana-Na. Campelak ngarana 4. Aya Kitab Sucina manawi ? Kitab sucina seratan Anjeuna, sares seratan manusa 5. Kumaha prak2anana nyembah ka nu dijantenkeun Tuhan teh ? Kang anembah Allah kang sinembah Allah, Anjeuna mah teu nyuhunkeun disembah. Nyembah Hyang teh ku cara ngagedekeun kahadean, welas asih ka sasama. Lain sasama hartina sadarajat, sapangabeuki, saturunan atawa saagama, tapi sasama batur hirup nu kabagean welas asihna Pangeran, kaasup dunya saeusina. Mangga eta Panca patarosan teh geura guar. Nuhun pisan tos masihan kasemetan ka abdi . Abbas Amin tea --- On Wed, 11/12/08, richadiana kartakusuma <richadianakartakusu [EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote: From: richadiana kartakusuma <richadianakartakusu [EMAIL PROTECTED] com> Subject: Re: [kisunda] Re: Ambu bade manggung di TMII To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 2:04 AM naon ieu teh KI Dulur? beuki garihal bae... pami enya wani TANDANG , ulah ka gamparan SArabunis ku anjeun bae nyalira buktoskeun.. . perele keun didieu ku salira.... ulah nambut leungeun batur, pan ki Dulur anu mukakeun cukang ti girangna sok mangga linggih... dihaturanan. .. diantos pedaranana ku salira ku anjeun ku hasil pamikiran anjeun entong ngagorowok tina tonggong batur.... jol kadieu didideu disakseni ku sadayana TAbe pun AMBU From: Abbas Amin <abas_amin08@ yahoo.com> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:32:14 AM Subject: Re: [kisunda] Re: Ambu bade manggung di TMII AA: cing kang sarabunis, upami apal ka na Agama Sunda; kumaha cenah tah ? Cing sok pedar; upami monotheisme, saha Nu Disembah ? Naon ngaran agamana? Saha Nabina sste sst. diantosan pisan, kulan --- On Tue, 11/11/08, Sarabunis Mubarok <sarabunis2008@ yahoo.co. id> wrote: From: Sarabunis Mubarok <sarabunis2008@ yahoo.co. id> Subject: Re: [kisunda] Re: Ambu bade manggung di TMII To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 10:06 PM Teu ngabibisani, da aya bukti ayana, sasaha ge mo bisa ngaeuweuh-euweuh. Uing keneh nu mostingkeun yen kapercayaan urang Sunda baheula geus kasebut agama tauhid (monotheisme) . Ti Gusti ieu Agama didugikeun ku urang Sunda keur urang Sunda kalawan konsep agamana oge dina istilah sunda. Salam, Sarabunis Mubarok_____ ______ Singaparna ----- Original Message ----- From: Roza Rahmadjasa Mintaredja To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..com Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:15 AM Subject: Re: [kisunda] Re: Ambu bade manggung di TMII heuheuheu... ..eta kg Bunisora teu salah...? Panuju ka agama Sunda? Hanteu basa-basi tah? ari kitu mah teu salah nyebut neneh Bunisora teh? Eta ngaran urg Galuh pituin khaaan? atuh ku luuucu eta ngaran SaraBunis... uin rek nyebut kg Buni? atw kg Sara? Bunisora asa leuwih klop pan? he33x! ....oca tea... --- On Tue, 11/11/08, Sarabunis Mubarok <sarabunis2008@ yahoo.co. id> wrote: From: Sarabunis Mubarok <sarabunis2008@ yahoo.co. id> Subject: Re: [kisunda] Re: Ambu bade manggung di TMII To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 7:54 AM Nepangkeun heula, Ambu, salam kenal... Ampun paralun, ku nyerat komentar di handap teh kumargi panuju kana ayana agama Sunda. Salam, Sarabunis Mubarok_____ ______ Singaparna ----- Original Message ----- From: richadiana kartakusuma To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [kisunda] Re: Ambu bade manggung di TMII naha bet bangun teu kenging SUNDA teh SUNDA naha bet siga teu panuju yen SUNDA ge aya agama SUNDA oge ku istilah SUNDA naha? Tabe pun AMBU From: Sarabunis Mubarok <sarabunis2008@ yahoo.co. id> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 10:16:10 PM Subject: Re: [kisunda] Re: Ambu bade manggung di TMII Bisa jadi agama urang sunda bahula samemeh datangna Islam geus kasebut Agama Tauhid/Islam oge. Gusti Allah tos ngutus rebuan nabi/rosul ka saban bangsa di dunya ti bangsana sorangan. Tangtu nabi/rosul nu di utus ka tanah sunda mah, ti urang Sunda keneh. Istilahna oga tangtu lain nabi, tangtu make istilah sunda, da nabi mah basa arab. Salam, Sarabunis Mubarok_____ ______ Singaparna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Waluya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] co.id> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ...com> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [kisunda] Re: Ambu bade manggung di TMII Bah Abas Amin, Ambu Dian teh panalungtik Badan Arkeologi Nasional, jadi nu dipedarna oge tangtu tina kacamata ilmiah da memang widang/ kaahlian anjeunna. Rarasaan mah teu kudu apriori kanu nalungtik kapercayaan buhun. Salian keur kaperluan sajarah, oge, bade diaku atawa moal, pangaruhna ka masyarakat jaman ayeuna aya keneh. Contona kapercayaan kana totonden. Waktu Imam Samudera dieksekusi, pajarkeun di imah indungna meleber seungit kembang, kitu deui di Tenggulun Lamongan pas layon datang, cenah aya tilu manuk hideung kukurilingan di imah kolotna Amrozy. Tepika aya nu ngagorowok : "arwahna para mujahid". Totonden meleberna seungit kembang jeung manuk hideung nu kukurilingan leuwih nunjukkeun pangaruh kapercayaan lokal tinimbang ti Islam. Jadi sanajan awong-awongan ngarasa Islam paling murni, tapi tetep teu bisa nyumputkeun yen maranehna teh tetep keuna pangaruh kapercayaan Sunda/ Jawa. Nu kaduana, margi Bah Amin katingalina anggota enggal di kisunda, kisunda rada benten jeung Kusnet, member kisunda langkung prural dina masalah kapercayaan. Didieu aya Kang Engkus Ruswana, inohong kapercayaan minoritas di Indonesia (kabeneran anjeunna batur saanggkatan kuring di ITB), aya Kang Ira (lamun teu lepat mah dosen Antropologi Unpad) nu ti Cigugur Kuningan sareng sigana aya nu sanesna nu kuring teu terang. Janten Bah AA ulah kaget lamun aya posting-posting nu benten jeung "selera" mayoritas ....... Baktos, WALUYA ----- Original Message ----- From: "abas_amin08" <abas_amin08@ yahoo.com> > AA: hihihihi, sok atuh tarongton kadinyah. > Kapan Sunan Ambu nu bakal medrna oge; saha ari Guru Mindana nya ? > Resep tah ngupingkeun agama balik deui ka Jaman PURBA. > Tapi naha nya KARUHUN urang bet marilih ISLAM ??? > Da pasti aranjeunna oge boga otak, di na narima Agama anyar teh; > moal bon narima kitu wae. Jeungna deui, euweuh pisan paksaan kapan > arasup Islam teh, da meureun asup akal tea. > > Tah mun urang balik deui ka agama Purba, atuh meureun Agama Baduy tea > nya ? Naha uang Sunda didentikkeun sareng BADUY? > Duka teh teuing atuh. > > Meureun nu rada apal mah ahli anthropologi tea, tapi kudu netral > Agama. > Duka atuh lah. > Abbas Amin ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ ILEN KARDANI Drilling Services Manager Schlumberger Drilling & Measurements 16 Floor, Rohas Perkasa No.8 Jalan Perak 50450 Kuala Lumpur – Malaysia Tel: 60 (3) 2166 7788 DID: 60 (3) 2169 4180 Fax: 60 (3) 21667100 Mobile: 60 (12) 2516485 mailto:ilen@ kuala-lumpur. oilfield. slb...com
