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--- On Tue, 11/18/08, mh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: mh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [kisunda] Kang Oca....kuuuuuulaaan kg Nduuuud? To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 6:32 AM sanes kitu bah Oca, asa ginding jigana upama boga catetan poean eusina aya rupa-rupa kalender: kalasunda, hijrah, jeung masesi parendeng-rendeng. salam, mh On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:19 PM, Roza Rahmadjasa Mintaredja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > eta kg Emha mani rajin, ngprek...kapanggiiiih be anu karieu teh... > memang eta cita2 uin..kantun tilu kendala manusa, > wa-ragad, mang-dana sareng embi-yaya > he33x! > ...oca tea... > > --- On Tue, 11/18/08, mh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: mh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [kisunda] Kang Oca....kuuuuuulaaan kg Nduuuud? > To: [email protected] > Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 6:12 AM > > Bah Oca kaleder, urang noong yu. Geura ieu mangga toong: > > http://www.vertex42.com/calendars/printable-calendars.html > > Upama kala Sunda, bisa disayagikeun jiga kitu, jigana gayanya. > Urang Sunda oge jalma lianna dimana wae ayana, bisa wawanohan > jeung kala Sunda > > salam, > mh > > On Tue, Nov 18, > 2008 at 8:54 PM, Roza Rahmadjasa Mintaredja > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> da pabaru Sunda ogen...baheula mah...hanteu ayaaaaaa... >> uin mah ngan sa-ukur mi eling.... >> yen ayyyyaaaaa Kala Sunda teh... >> lain mieling Bah AAAAAli.... >> bisi dulur2 poho...be >> karak taun 2005 pan? >> samemehna,.... Bah Ali ngayakeun? Hanteu.... >> ieu mah suuugan, jeung suuugan ki dulur emut... >> uin geus teu wasa nyitak deui...hampuuuura >> tara biasa moroposal...kasasaha gen... >> bade nyitak nyaliraaaa? mangga teh teeeuin... >> ari data na mah parantos siap.. >> kggo 5000 tauneun... >> tah ,eta karya/ jieunan kg Irfan eta teh... >> anu sakitu yakin kana ka akuratan KalaSunda >> ari bah Ali mah, mung nk taun 2400 Caka asana mah >> ngeusi waktu beee cenah... >> he33x! >> ...oca tea... >> >> --- On Tue, 11/18/08, Roza Rahmadjasa > Mintaredja > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> From: Roza Rahmadjasa Mintaredja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: [kisunda] Kang Oca....kuuuuuulaaan kg Nduuuud? >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 4:31 AM >> >> nyaeeeta atuh ki dulur kg Iman..lan baraya sadayaaaaaaaa..... >> uin lain ahli sajarah.......oge bah Ali.... >> anjeunna mung sakadar ngaguar pananggalan wungkul.... >> tapi ....bukti2 bermunculan.....kemudian >> by geuleuleuyeung... >> sugan jeung sugan , numutkeun pamikiran uin beee heula ath >> >> kabiasaan nangtukeun tanggal di Sunda mah >> atawa mimiti jadina, anu make kajadian monumental kararitu >> tara jadi kabiasaaaaaan , keur US.... >> sapertos, peletakkan batu pertama kggo ngadamel Talaga Maharena Wiyaya >> keur irigasina Nagara Pajajaran, hanteu aya carita... >> nu matak > tuang putra Surawisesa ogen mung mieling tuang Ramana... >> bisi kapopohokeun... >> dijieun prasasti dina upacara Srada, ngantunkeun/mendak taunka 12 taun... >> apanan eta make budaya Hindu lin? >> Eyang Prabu Siliwangi, hanteu pupujieun dinu karitu... >> tapi gaweeeeeeeee sajah, nu maslahat keur balarea... >> pakena kreta bener >> hanteu...disini AKU BUAT TALAGA gunting pita...jstna... >> tah ageman babakti kasasama teh, >> ageman keur kundang reya, teh dina PRAKKKKKKK >> hanteu sakadar POK ngomong >> hanteu sakadar PEK entep >> tapiiiii...PRAK laksana... >> ngalaksanakeun ajaran ka Raharjaan >> ngalaksanakeun ajaran ka Waluyaan >> ngalaksanakeun ajaran ka Rahayuan >> ti para Resi, majelis para elmuwan... >> elmu tatanen, elmu palintangan >> elmu agama, jrrd >> jeung di asuh ku Rama....majelis Spiritual >> keur ngaheuyeuk dayeuh, ngolah > nagara... >> salaku pancen Ratu/Prebu...teh >> jagat Daranan, jagat Palangka, jagat Kreta >> samalih Eyang Prebu Siliwangi, Sri Baduga RatuHaji di Pakwan Pajajaran. > Ratu >> anu geus Purana, mah tos ngagem gelar RAJARESI. ngaRAJARESI >> ari upacarana? keur naon wae? >> keur sukuran Panen Raya, >> keur nangtukeun daerah pamali, jrrd anu karitu >> sangat fungsional, keur kamaslahatan balarea, jauh ti pupujieun atw > rerekaan >> >> ayeuna uninga, lahir nabi, nganggo akte kalahiran? >> ari Nabi susuratan harita make tanggal? hanteu aya! >> awal tanggalna ogen saparantos ratusan taun pupus??? rame heeeula pan? >> naha Nabi nangtukeun Awal pindah ka Madinah? lain ceuk nabi apanan >> ari para sahabat, oge para panerusna harita susuratan make tanggal? >> boro2 mikiran anu karitu sun? >> ari natalan, saparantos ratusan taun pupus??? >> jabaaaa...eta paraseana nangtukeun > tanggal...para dewan galejra??? >> dimaaana di timur tengah aya salju? 25 Des? >> naha urg rek pipilueun anu karitu patut? >> ulah jauh2 atuh , >> eta ngadegna kabupaten oge, aya anu rewuan, aya anu puluhan taun bentenna >> tiap kota teh...asa pikalucueunn... >> ceuk uin sadirieun mah..... >> naha euweuh pagawean seeeejen anu leuwih mangpaat keur balarea??? >> hayoh padungdengan nk ratusan taunan, nepiii ka angger pasea... >> tah, lenyepan hari lahir Sumedang, kamari mani paraseana >> ceuk aing sanggeus runtagna Pajajaran, 1579 >> ceuk nu lain memangna ...euweuh raja samemehna.. Aji Putih atuh? >> nepi ka Don MUrdono biiingun >> anu maaaaana atuuuuh , anu bener teh??? >> tah, uin netelakeun... >> salila paradigma batur anu di pake...salila eta Nagara moal baleg >> sami sareng pedaran uin ka kg AA, patarosanna gugur! >> Masalah Nabi jeung Kitab? Sabari hanteu nyaho naon > Kitab Adam? >> naaa urg kudu pipilueun nyieun kitab suci Sunda? jg nabi Sunda? >> naha ieu kabudayaan uuuurang? >> manaaaaawi...... >> he33x! >> ...oca tea... >> >> >> --- On Tue, 11/18/08, Kang Iman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> From: Kang Iman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: [kisunda] Kang Oca....kuuuuuulaaan kg Nduuuud? >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 3:39 AM >> >> Bah .... kira-kira naon kejadian anu dijieun tetengger Kala sunda nu > ayeuna >> jeung Kalender Sunda baheula >> pan sok aya cenah >> contona .... >> Taun Saka ... aji Saka >> Tahun Masehi ...... Kalahiran Al-Masih >> Hijriah ...... waktu hijrah >> bah ... tos aya bukuna teu ... >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Roza Rahmadjasa Mintaredja >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> kg Ndud.... >>> nuhun piiiiiisan kana infotaintment na ,..... >>> eta teh seratan kg Irfan Anshory, 2006 >>> anu komplitna mah, nyeureud pisan KALENDER SUNDA, KLD.MUSRYIK, cenah >>> >>> mangkahade, urusan matematik/astronomi jeung urusan agama jadi > pabaliut... >>> wajar pisan sabab, kalender teh jadi patokan waktu agama di > wewengkonna >>> masing2 >>> kalender hijryah-Islam.............. >>> hih, nepi ka Alloh negeskeun dina qur'an, perkara kalender > teh???kudu make >>> bulan awal ieu >>> nyaeta gabungan/geser2 kalender Jahilliah,.... diurus ku gusti... >>> (gustiiiiiii .....................mani nepi ka kituna?) >>> da mun ditilik ti astronomi mah leuwih ciples kalender jahilliah. eta > teh >>> eta kusabab ti jaman jahilliah, salila ratusan taun, tiap > kabilah > hanteu >>> eureun2 pasea, dina pasualan tanggal...lain parea omomg,,,peeeerang, > ku >>> alatan pananggalan?????????? >>> sabaraha ayat tah, medarkeun ngeunaan kalender Islam ...poho deui , > uin >>> pernah nulis baheula, ngan hanteu pernah dimuat ku PR, KALENDER dan > AGAMA >>> keur ngajawab Irfan teh..., nya di alungkeun ka imahna beeee.... >>> kalender masehi-karesten? uin boga datana >>> kalender India-hindu, uin boga datana >>> kalender Jawa- Islam kejawen >>> kalender Bali- Hindu Bali jrrd. aya dimana-mana datana >>> ari US hanteu meunang boga kalender?- >>> ari US hanteu meunang boga agama? >>> >>> sobat uin kiwari Irfan teh, ayeuna janten tim inti KalaSunda... >>> sabab beliau ngarti matematik, nya taaaaluk pisan tah, ari tos jelas > mah >>> kitu we, pondok na carios mah... >>> >>> matakna uin > sok siga anu agul yen SUNDA PANG-KOLOTna sadunya teh... >>> keur ngadurenyomkeun , yen kronologis pananggalan bisa diurut... >>> aya tapak lacak, diconto ku India, sombong kan? di India aya kampung > Sunda >>> jadi uin siga anu heureuy, mahabrata made in Sunda teh >>> rama yana, ajaran ka rama an? rama; resi; prebu/ratu? >>> lain tina tri tangtu di bumi eta teh? sunda yana , mun rek > di-ebrehkeun >>> mah! >>> kg Yanaaaaaaaa....kg ajaran...hehee.... ajaran naon pidusa teh? >>> ngan lain bagian uin eta mah, logika beeee... >>> kunaon? Saka India mah Luni solar, ari kalender India Bengali timana >>> nyokotna? >>> di India aya maung Bengali, aya basisir sunda di India... >>> di India aya leuwih ti tilupuluh pananggalan lokal, uin gaduh > bukuna... >>> data menunjukkan Sanjaya pernah menguasai India saratus taun! >>> maenya hanteu ninggalkeun > budayana , oge pananggalanna? >>> eta tertera di Encyclopedia Brittannica, lain ti US.... >>> ulah jauh2 teuin lah, ulah teleb2 teuin lah ceuk kg Emha > mah...it's ok? >>> ari proklamasi Indonesia aslina, make pananggalan Jepang... >>> padahal 'hanya' tilu taun ngajajah Indonesia.....??? >>> SAnjaya saratus taun.....wah, geus sakuduna, lain wajar2 sajah >>> mun make pananggalan Sunda teh. >>> >>> kalender JAWA teh, gabungan kalender Sunda jeung Arab... >>> ari raja2 awal di Jateng, Jatim, misal, Sanjaya teh urang Galuh lin? >>> ari awal ngitung tanggal bulan, ti mimiti baheula, kudu selalu > terbitna >>> anu jadi patokan....? >>> masalah parebut tanggal 1 Syawwal, salila sarewu lima ratus taun,anu >>> hanteu pernah akur tug dugi ka kiwari....naha ieu teh tetep diantep > salaku >>> kayakinan Islam sadunya? >>> sacara hisab jeung > ru'yah?....ngan dijawab ku kayakinan agama, >>> lain ku masalah Astronomi, anu geus sakitu modernana kiwari... >>> batur mah anggeus nepi ka bulan, ari ieu ngurus pananggalan ogen > hanteu >>> kelar2? >>> eta kyai anu ngobrol jg uin, mani eraun, era paradah............ >>> >>> tah ....ieu he33x! uin ...jikir jeung mikir teh make nanaon? >>> make mastaka, make mustika make mistika na Sunda >>> uin make iket teh, ngiket DIRI, yen uin mah manusa biasa, >>> teu wasa, teu daya , teu upaya....anging ku Keresana, Kresna, > Khrisna? >>> (jeung nutup tarang lega..heheee) >>> lain ku sakadar polo wungkul, tapi make atina -rasana , kg A-AAAAAA? >>> uin pernah diundang ku Boscha baheula.....didongengkeun ku para > astronom >>> sadunya, >>> *naon kalemahanana teori hisab jeung ru'yah teh.? >>> kahiji...salah rumus ngitungna , tidak jelas > timana asal usul > rumus...eta >>> perkara hisab >>> kadua, tembong cahaya awal bulan teh leuwih ti dua ratus kamungkinan, > hese >>> pisan cenah. mun arek teh di unggal nagara anu loba ummat Islam kudu > boga >>> teropong anu ratusan milliar rupiah...(yuta dolar)...eta perkara > ru'yah.... >>> *ari metoda tanggal hiji Sunda mah, budak satepak ogen geus bisa >>> nangtukaeun.... >>> saparo poek, saparo caang...nya eta ,garis lurus' jadina anu di > tengah >>> paro teh? >>> dianggap teu ilahar...ceuk nu teu ilahar teh, jeung eeeeta si uin, >>> tuturut mundiiing deuih, .....teu ilahar. >>> karuhun US geus boga kalender anu umurna geus 18000 taun... >>> eta oge ceuk astronom walanda khaaaan? >>> kunaon ngaleungit?, lain ngahyang! heu >>> tapi aya anu sirik pidik, hiri dengki ka US >>> US kudu > sadarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr kana sajarahna >>> yen loba anu membumi hanguskan, ajaran/elmu karuhun, sacara > sistematis... >>> lain hayang agul atw ngagulkeun maneh... >>> tapi kudu reueus, kudu atoh.... sabab, uin keur maluruh wiwitan Sunda >>> lain sakadar pasualan sunda wiwitan , Ambuuuuuuuu... >>> by data en by fakta....en by geuleuyeung...heheee >>> keur naon sih, sok agul ku payung butut? kg Nduuuud? >>> ari butut teh lain goreng, tapi barang antik, barang buhun... >>> ngan geus euweuh anu mirosea, jadi weh bulukan, dekil en the kumel >>> mun eta barang antik diurus sacara bener, pan jadi barang anu mahal >>> kaciiida? >>> pandangan ka kala Sunda hanteu jauh ka pandangan ka Siliwangi.... >>> hanteu aya anu mupusti,( kahade lain migusti....) >>> eleh ku UBali....., anu leuwih sadar ka karuhunna, batan US... >>> US > mah, leuwih apal ka karuhun batur, tibatan ka Karuhun sorangan... >>> tah ka pun dulur, lan baraya sadaya... >>> Jadi SUNDA BUHUN teh, eta anu ku US kudu dipikareueus... >>> Sunda...lain sakadar genetika, lain sakadar budaya, lain sakadar > sundaland >>> lain sakadar harti dina kecap, lain sakadar sampurasun, lain sakadar >>> rampes, lain sakadar jaipongan, lain sakadar Siliwangi, lain sakadar > Galuh, >>> lain sakadar Pajajaran... >>> laiiiiinnnnnnn.... >>> uin keur sa-dirieun, boga axioma, darengekeun.... >>> SUNDA...HOW, WHY, WHEN, WHAT, WHO? >>> Sunda ngarupakeun tatanan kahirupan ka-bangsaan jeung ka-nagaraan, > dina >>> tangtungan, yen Gusti teh anu boga keresa, anu boga widi, anu murbeng > alam >>> jeung jagat ieu, geus ber-Pancasila samemeh aya Pancasila.! >>> cag! >>> wah jadi melebar nih? >>> >>> pamungkas, > www.com; wanci, wayah, waktu. com >>> wilujeng Taun Baru Sunda, >>> dina ping 6, poe Sabtu, bulan Desember, taun 2008, alias >>> ping 1, poe Tumpek, Kaliwon, bulan Kartika, taun 1945 CakaSunda >>> merdeka Sunda!!! >>> merdeka bangsana, bangsa Sunda............... >>> merdeka basana, basa Sunda.................. >>> merdeka agemanana, ageman Sunda............ >>> >>> raharja, waluya, rahayu !!! >>> >>> mangga komentarna di antos... >>> manawi kahartos >>> manawi karaos >>> yen, uin keur teu gaduh artos... >>> sugan aya anu ngabantos... >>> margi nyitak kalender Sunda sanes ku waos >>> kudu ku nu geus sapagodos.... >>> pribados permios.... >>> he33x! >>> ...oca tea... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Recent > Activity >>> >>> 7 >>> New Members >>> >>> Visit Your Group >>> Y! 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