Hi all, As I stated, I spoke basically for myself and the report may not reflect the general feeling of the current team. I wasn't blaming anyone, that has to be clear, because otherwise I'll be the first one to be blamed for having been away for such a long time.
I completely understand everybody has its own life/job/interest/whatever, my regret is that we still haven't reached a critical mass for keeping the project going even if some of the developer stop working on the project. Unfortunately, I don't have a solution for that; as you said, some projects are interesting enough to attract more people, some other projects are not. This has nothing to do with the technical aspect of the project nor with the quality of the code; when I remarked that it was for pointing out that when Matthew started the project he was - i guess - the only one with a clear idea of how the project would progress. Now I think the only one left is Pid, but for my understanding he's quite busy at the moment, I really do hope he will have some time in the nearly future to hop on again, I enjoyed the time we all worked together. About the meritocracy thing: yes, I agree again with you here everybody as a team could be the PO, what I think is that some of the 'power' you get from acquired merit won't last a lifetime, but it could also be lost. To me that's something everybody should aim to keep what he gained, and there is no shame in changing their mind during the whole process. That's why I raised the point about how many people are still interested in Kitty. I honestly have no idea what the features for a project like Kitty should be added or improved, so I'm sorry, but I'm simply not fitted for that role. I would really read from other people their thoughts about the project, I hope everybody will find some spare time to join the discussion. Thanks and have a good day Ale On 12 January 2012 02:19, Kevan Miller <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Jan 11, 2012, at 6:19 PM, Alessandro Novarini wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I've just finished writing the report on the wiki page. > > Sorry if I might seem rude or not polite, I only tried to base the report > > on facts relevant to me, as we didn't discuss together about the actual > > status of the project. > > I trust if anybody had something to complain, he could freely update the > > report with the due corrections. > > Hi Ale, > Thanks for the report. I don't have many quibbles with what you've written. > > I do have a few general comments: > > Communities ebb and flow. Sometimes communities go through slow periods. This > is not necessarily a problem. > > Sometimes Incubating projects retire. Not all projects work out. Not all > projects attract a critical mass for an effective community. This is not a > failure -- and in no way necessarily reflects on the technical aspects of the > code. Nor does it reflect on the people who contribute to the community. > > That said, if people care about the project. They can keep it going, > contribute, and eventually graduate from Incubator. I have no doubt that can > easily happen for Kitty… People make successful projects and communities. > They don't just happen... > > And a specific comment: > > Re: "The lack of a "Product Owner"" -- the "community" is the "product > owner". Anyone (or group of people) can assume this role. Apache is a > meritocracy. If someone has ideas on where the project should go, wants to > define/prioritize tasks, and provide the community with what features need to > be implemented -- they can do so. Anyone can do this -- current committers or > someone completely new to the project can initiate this. So, if someone is > interested in the project, don't just wait for someone to tell you what to do > -- *do*. Or, better yet, do *and* tell other people what to do… ;-) > > --kevan > >
