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On 10/19/07, hard wyrd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > @Art: > Sorry if I'm going to ask - what made you think I copy and pasted the post > I made? For the sake of information, that's just a snippet of the Gigs of > info I have to deal with that is related to my job being in this business > for close to 12 years already. > > @everyone: > As Ron would say, the post was made in jest along with the meat of > information. No need to be "onion-skinned" about it :). I have no intentions > of insulting anybody in this list. My time is too hard pressed and hectic > now than using my time to troll. I'd have to deal with Xen, Linux HA > Clusters, and Alcatel-Lucent IP-PBX on a daily basis just so you'd have an > idea on what I have to contend to. :) > > If my intentions would have been to troll, then the resulting post would > not have been like what you've read. I've had enough of trolls from other > lists. If you think that my post was rude or insulting, try visiting the > comp.os.linux.advocacy mailing list :). I'd call their troll posts > "brutal" for my taste. > > Sit back, relax, and enjoy the show (unsa'y chada na salida sa sine karon? > 2 years na ko walay sulod-sulod sine) > > > On 10/19/07, Arthur Gapusan < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > @hard wyrd, did you really type this text on your own or you > > "copy-paste" from somewhere else? > > > > if you did "copy-paste" it, why not just post the link? > > > > if you did not "copy-paste it, that's very rude of you to call us kids. > > > > > > On 10/19/07, hard wyrd < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Which ebook do you need? A "very basic, > > > down-to-the-last-grain-of-sand" simple ebook? or the > > > "extremely-complex-for-pro-only" ebook? > > > > > > On Web 2.0 : > > > > > > Most of the replies mentioned the "tools", "platforms", and > > > technologies that pertains to being Web2.0-aware. The question really > > > is > > > > > > "What is the essence of Web2.0 ?" > > > > > > My answer: > > > > > > Web 2.0 is not about how you design your site, nor the tools and > > > frameworks used to have an "uber-cool" portal. Web2.0 is all about > > > (take note of these kids) SERVICE, INTERACTION and COLLABORATION. > > > > > > Service > > > Due to the very nature of the new tools (AJAX, PHP, RAILS, SOAP, > > > etc...) we can now provide services over the web which normally in > > > pre-2000 > > > era would require us to use Client-Server applications. Huge and cheap > > > internet bandwidth also contributed to the boom of over-the-web services > > > much of these we now take for granted like photo-sharing, media streaming, > > > remote application hosting, and so on. > > > > > > Interaction and Collaboration > > > With the new tools used, developers churn out extremely dynamic and > > > usable tools that are at-par, if not surpass, traditional client-server > > > based tools and applications. With the latest web-based services, we > > > interact more, communicate and collaborate more, get more creative, and > > > more > > > aware of virtually anything we see and do. Prime examples are YouTube, > > > Friendster, Gmail, All New Yahoo, Digg, Photobucket, Shareaza, and other > > > services. These are relatively taken for granted by a lot of people, > > > however, the atmosphere that these tools work in contribute to the overall > > > feel of Web2.0. > > > > > > Again, Web2.0 is not about putting Flash on your site, glitzy > > > graphics, grand scripts and frameworks. Unless interaction, collaboration, > > > and service is not present in your portal/site/what-have-you, I'd hardly > > > call it Web2.0-compliant. > > > > > > On 10/19/07, Archangel < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Joomla!!! Joomla!!!! I never tried that one, but they say it is very > > > > easy to used. It doesn't required to start from scratch... ako, I start > > > > from simple scratch and then to development and then pass to my > > > > co-developer > > > > for redevelopment, I am more in the content and script actions. I used > > > > noted > > > > ++ for easy code editing. light weight pud cya na program... > > > > > > > > Anyone has an ebook of AJAX? I need it for my school projects eh... > > > > > > > > On 10/19/07, Jose P. Suria Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > That's half true. Web 2.0 is a marketing strategy. Those > > > > > technologies are hyped because they are the next "new" thing, > > > > > especially > > > > > AJAX. > > > > > > > > > > How do you make a website? Simple, you learn :) It's the only way > > > > > to start. If you have the drive and the thirst for knowledge, you're > > > > > on your > > > > > way ;) > > > > > > > > > > Oh, and I still use the simple stuff (barebones PHP, open source > > > > > software, notepad :P). I have yet to try all those new technologies > > > > > that > > > > > these guys here mentioned hehe. > > > > > > > > > > Peace. > > > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > On 10/19/07, Robert Steve Paolo Dejesica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > BANG WIGIGZZZZ!!!! headshot mong tanan..Patay ang Topic oi... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/19/07, Jarlo Nicholas Solde < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Web 2.0 doesn't exist, its just a mix of hyped technologies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/19/07, Jason Yap < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/18/07, Patricia Estorgio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi guys ^_^, I was just gonna dig up some information from > > > > > > > > > you and I know many are really interested and also in a web > > > > > > > > > development > > > > > > > > > fields. I have read some articles about this Web2.0 thingy > > > > > > > > > and what is it all [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ Please don't give me > > > > > > > > > out links coz I've already > > > > > > > > > read some of O`Reilly's explanation about it and I was just > > > > > > > > > asking your own > > > > > > > > > thoughts and experiences about it ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What web technologies or tools have you been using so far? > > > > > > > > > How do you start a website? Or something like directory > > > > > > > > > structures or > > > > > > > > > something? How it differs from the 90s website up to flash > > > > > > > > > thingy and now, > > > > > > > > > the cool trendy sites? Logos or something like pastel colors > > > > > > > > > kaya.. mga > > > > > > > > > tipung ganun. I know a lot here's aren't just Linux gurus but > > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > webmasters.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sharing thoughts lang.. assuming we're all have been > > > > > > > > > to Google. :p > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ^_^x peace! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~oooOoooOooo~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > ^_^ Am i fair to all concerned? ^_^ > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~oooOoooOooo~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > Kagay-Anon Linux Users' Group (KLUG) Mailing List > > > > > > > > > [email protected] (http://cdo.linux.org.ph) > > > > > > > > > Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well I don't know much pero mao ra ni akong nabalan: RSS, > > > > > > > > XML, SOAP, REST og AJAX. I think Rails is also in the Web > > > > > > > > 2.0 standard. But I don't know if ang Flex or OpenLaszlo is > > > > > > > > in the Web 2.0 standard. Please correct me kung naay mali sa > > > > > > > > akong nabutang. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the tools, I'm using Joomla, OpenLaszlo and Rails. IMO, > > > > > > > > they are the next generation in Web Development. As of right > > > > > > > > now, Joomla is > > > > > > > > becoming a trend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Compared sa old sites, mas simple and elegant ang mga web > > > > > > > > pages karon. Dili na sila ga rely on heavy graphics for the > > > > > > > > layout. Dili > > > > > > > > parehas sa una na layout ka sa photoshop then slice and save > > > > > > > > and ready to > > > > > > > > use na. Naka table pa jud ang layout. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Karon, gagamit na sila og CSS and ang layout kay ang CSS na > > > > > > > > tanan ang bahala. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mao ra man ni akong mga na obserbahan, nadunggan og nabasan. > > > > > > > > Hehe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Salamat and more power! > > > > > > > > -wahoho > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > "Just being alive is such a lovely and wonderful thing." > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > Kagay-Anon Linux Users' Group (KLUG) Mailing List > > > > > > > > [email protected] (http://cdo.linux.org.ph) > > > > > > > > Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Mr. Jarlo Nicholas L. 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