On Saturday 12 July 2008 00:47:47 tildemark wrote:
> Jikjik, you were right, i tried to search the term "forum without a
> login" at google.com and i didnt find any.  i guess forums really 
> need  a username and a password before we could read whats inside. 

it's possible to have anonymous-postable forums.  usually though
you don't want that since you'll get spammers and trolls who pick
fights or post unsavory messages, links or messages.

it's still possible to create bogus username/passwords and make a
mess of things, but it's often not worth the trouble.  it's easy to ban
usernames, and most logins will require an email address, so the
need to create an email address, pass the captcha test, then create
a login, wait for the email, then click on the link to validate yourself
makes it much less worthwhile to engage in trolling and other 
online stupidities.

the purpose is not to make doing bad things impossible.  the purpose
is to impose a speed bump so that doing bad things becomes 
expensive and not worth the trouble.

> On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 5:33 PM, jikjik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > it's an online forum. it needs a username and password before we can read
> > whats inside. i think you know the purpose of that.

On the other hand (note, i haven't visited the site, just responding to
the text of your email, if the text does not accurately describe the
situation, well, this is a case of severe miscommunication), having 
a forum that requires authentication for *writing* makes some sense
(as discussed above).  having a forum that requires auth for *reading*
is a bit bogus, IMO.  

if you want people to participate in something that doesn't actually
benefit them much, then you should lower the barriers to entry so
that they'll be encouraged to do what you'd like them to do.

having to create a login in order to read what's in the forums is a
barrier to entry.  I'm not going to create a login to read what's in
there since, frankly, i doubt if i'd learn anything from that forum.

and i'm lazy.  if you notice, i haven't even surfed over to the forum
to see if, in fact, a login is needed to *read* what's in there.  if
a login were needed, i certainly wouldn't register because it's more
work.

does your forum site let google in, at least?  i've entered some 
forums before because i saw something from google and it brought
me to the forum.  if the need was important enough, then for 
login-to-read sites that had important content i needed, sure, i'd
register and login (although, generally, i'd only use the forum
for what i needed, after that, i'd never go there again).

a site that requires login just for reading feels like 
experts-exchange.com to me (did that used to be expertsexchange.com
until it became an internet joke?  or was that a different site?).

google for experts-exchange.com and (apart from the 
experts-exchange.com site itself), see what people say about
it :-).

tiger

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