Hi Libor,

On Friday 15 of December 2017 10:26:09 libor.pel...@nic.cz wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> first, we must distinguish two things:
> 
> 1) on every reload, every zone is attempted to be re-signed. This takes
> some CPU time, as the NSEC(3) chain is re-constructed and RRSIGs
> validated. Anyway, if we perform reload "often", it "usually" ends up
> with the messages "DNSSEC, zone is up-to-date". This is a design feature
> of Knot. Is it a problem for you?

This is perfectly clear to me and it is not an issue for me. I like that 
up-to-date status is logged during the startup.

> 
> 2) when anything in the zone changes, or the zone would re-sign itself
> anyway in the meantime, the re-signing ends up with "DNSSEC,
> successfully signed". This happens e.g. if zone contents changed, NSEC3
> salt updated, some RRSIG nearing its end of validity... If this happens
> on "clear" zone, it's a bug. We have de-bugged this behavior in the past
> and we also have got a test case covering this. But still it may happen
> that there is a bug. The best point to start at is journal contents. In
> the changesets it should be visible what changed. You can explore the
> journal with "kjournalprint" utility.

This is also clear to me. I am just trying to find the reason for re-sign when 
the zone content was not (externally) updated. I am rather wonder why this is 
happening than complaining. 
Thanks for reminding me of kjournalprint. When checking the journal I can see 
(last three changes):

;; Changes between zone versions: 1513694442 -> 1513707970
;;Removed
rozjezdy.cz.            3600    SOA     idunn.t-mobile.cz. 
dss-system.t-mobile.cz. 1513694442 7200 600 1209600 3600
rozjezdy.cz.            3600    RRSIG   SOA 13 2 3600 20180102144042 
20171219131042 53957 rozjezdy.cz. 
Vnzp8R5bJk3sOybu9WoJzf/1ABNuIz3d0WHhbyQ3VDiIzmZwJ13OOUjsqYuD18OqsFO9eFMNJrPccKjMHsDBLw==
rozjezdy.cz.            0       RRSIG   NSEC3PARAM 13 2 0 20180102144042 
20171219131042 53957 rozjezdy.cz. 
9lv+D3biq8FHB2PyTXa98J/31Lf7rdv6KNJNILlm7jsimi0ylSslK6uisLdt5h13jXFRLePs3yWqWMfdBLG8FA==
;;Added
rozjezdy.cz.            3600    SOA     idunn.t-mobile.cz. 
dss-system.t-mobile.cz. 1513707970 7200 600 1209600 3600
rozjezdy.cz.            3600    RRSIG   SOA 13 2 3600 20180102182610 
20171219165610 53957 rozjezdy.cz. 
zG1o9Rc5zeiO2+JDntbkjrs3Cv+LbKgxvyCYB4tnkT8U/5874YPZlX8OGfDhXAo+QjYk8+RMEf3DReIN/gcbOA==
rozjezdy.cz.            0       RRSIG   NSEC3PARAM 13 2 0 20180102182610 
20171219165610 53957 rozjezdy.cz. 
xLDqFtMLVWF8Rwjaq84qj5GATN8ozFKEn1sGUNm4rPvPomChkhpz3z6jAC+jTTawTsCbzfMYkAINIeQpMkLJeA==
;; Changes between zone versions: 1513707970 -> 1513708136
;;Removed
rozjezdy.cz.            3600    SOA     idunn.t-mobile.cz. 
dss-system.t-mobile.cz. 1513707970 7200 600 1209600 3600
rozjezdy.cz.            3600    RRSIG   SOA 13 2 3600 20180102182610 
20171219165610 53957 rozjezdy.cz. 
zG1o9Rc5zeiO2+JDntbkjrs3Cv+LbKgxvyCYB4tnkT8U/5874YPZlX8OGfDhXAo+QjYk8+RMEf3DReIN/gcbOA==
rozjezdy.cz.            0       RRSIG   NSEC3PARAM 13 2 0 20180102182610 
20171219165610 53957 rozjezdy.cz. 
xLDqFtMLVWF8Rwjaq84qj5GATN8ozFKEn1sGUNm4rPvPomChkhpz3z6jAC+jTTawTsCbzfMYkAINIeQpMkLJeA==
;;Added
rozjezdy.cz.            3600    SOA     idunn.t-mobile.cz. 
dss-system.t-mobile.cz. 1513708136 7200 600 1209600 3600
rozjezdy.cz.            3600    RRSIG   SOA 13 2 3600 20180102182856 
20171219165856 53957 rozjezdy.cz. 
GId9nFX7W6zDuhDkXSEoYHL7P2A3tQpr0mlAlJCpGrW2VnxBXlnmMqfVm376PbfN9jijSt3wKHagzz3eS+22DA==
rozjezdy.cz.            0       RRSIG   NSEC3PARAM 13 2 0 20180102182856 
20171219165856 53957 rozjezdy.cz. 
nYEne/00rSqUQtS5p3Lvi7KbeKQvrlPrdiz31WlQoBwMj+Pg5wZdTu1rbacF4vQCjGfdCYgvuU4M1noAlCfZdg==
;; Changes between zone versions: 1513708136 -> 1513708291
;;Removed
rozjezdy.cz.            3600    SOA     idunn.t-mobile.cz. 
dss-system.t-mobile.cz. 1513708136 7200 600 1209600 3600
rozjezdy.cz.            3600    RRSIG   SOA 13 2 3600 20180102182856 
20171219165856 53957 rozjezdy.cz. 
GId9nFX7W6zDuhDkXSEoYHL7P2A3tQpr0mlAlJCpGrW2VnxBXlnmMqfVm376PbfN9jijSt3wKHagzz3eS+22DA==
rozjezdy.cz.            0       RRSIG   NSEC3PARAM 13 2 0 20180102182856 
20171219165856 53957 rozjezdy.cz. 
nYEne/00rSqUQtS5p3Lvi7KbeKQvrlPrdiz31WlQoBwMj+Pg5wZdTu1rbacF4vQCjGfdCYgvuU4M1noAlCfZdg==
;;Added
rozjezdy.cz.            3600    SOA     idunn.t-mobile.cz. 
dss-system.t-mobile.cz. 1513708291 7200 600 1209600 3600
rozjezdy.cz.            3600    RRSIG   SOA 13 2 3600 20180102183131 
20171219170131 53957 rozjezdy.cz. 
KklZfsp8Ztzih04/Weedt1aP5Qa9oxsnj72KuGeeqI1szSvL/l6uGC6Rf6ZZJjrN/A/TQMcJzbkgwIMe6YetYA==
rozjezdy.cz.            0       RRSIG   NSEC3PARAM 13 2 0 20180102183131 
20171219170131 53957 rozjezdy.cz. 
FfE9FhQgr8NWCfKf9d1aA0I8h4cd7CCSRbp0Nkq+BXmLOpRMs862lRSWCNHPxRPqufQvjo34AlroRrTYpevwEg==

I do not understand it: are the changes listed above the cause or the 
consequenceof re-sign?

Regards
Ales
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