Some work on making both install methods converge is in the oven right now :-D
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Phillip Ponchot <[email protected]> wrote: > Ok, I see where the jobs are. I didn't understand that there was a > difference between a source install and a package install. > > In some of the 3.14 documentation there is a chapter on cronjobs and how > to set them up. Now i understand that these particular documents must be > mean for the source installs. > > Personally, I'm a little relieved that I don't have to build the cronjob > for Koha. > > Thanks to everyone for the help. > > Hang in there, > > > Phillip > > Subject: Re: [Koha] Crontab - is that one tabs used to open beer cans? > From: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 07:56:30 +1200 > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > CC: [email protected] > > Don't touch anything. Seriously. > > > > If you have a packaged install, it's all been done. Look in cron.d, > cron.daily etc all the jobs have been set up. > > > > Chris > > On 8 July 2014 7:17:29 am NZST, Phillip Ponchot <[email protected]> wrote: > The old koha was installed as a tarball on the old server so I believe > this makes it a source-based. The new koha was installed via a repository. > apt-get install koha-common. > > I did find in /etc/cron.d a koha-common file. The contents of this file > was: > > # /etc/cron.d/koha-common > # > # Call koha-rebuild-zebra for each enabled Koha instance, to make sure the > # Zebra indexes are up to date. > > SHELL=/bin/sh > PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin > > */5 * * * * root test -x /usr/sbin/koha-rebuild-zebra && > koha-rebuild-zebra -q $(koha-list --enabled) > */15 * * * * root koha-foreach --enabled --email > /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/process_message_queue.pl > > also there is a directory in /user/share/koha/bin/cronjobs - are these > run by the koha program or do I have to schedule them in a crontab job? > > > advance_notices.pl holds > backup.sh import_webservice_batch.pl > batch_anonymise.pl j2a.pl > build_browser_and_cloud.pl longoverdue.pl > cart_to_shelf.pl MARC21_parse_test.pl > check-url.pl overdue_notices.pl > check-url-quick.pl printoverdues.sh > cleanup_database.pl process_message_queue.pl > cloud-kw.pl purge_suggestions.pl > cloud-sample.conf rss > CONFIGURE.gmail runreport.pl > create_koc_db.pl serialsUpdate.pl > crontab.example services_throttle.pl > delete_expired_opac_registrations.pl social_data > delete_patrons.pl staticfines.pl > delete_unverified_opac_registrations.pl thirdparty > fines.pl update_totalissues.pl > gather_print_notices.pl > > I just want to run automatically anything that needs to be done to keep > koha up to date. > > Thanks > > > Phillip > > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > CC: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Koha] Crontab - is that one tabs used to open beer cans? > Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 14:00:19 -0400 > > Greetings, > > First, you still did not specify if you were doing a package installation > or > a source-based installation. Which are you doing? If a source-based > installation, then your hacked up solution is passable, though not > optimal. > > Second, let's reply to your points: > There is a "syste > ms" > crontab which ubuntu warns not to change. > > You can create crontab jobs at the system level without modifying existing > ones. Every file placed in the appropriate cron.* directory is its own > crontab file. > > > The crontab on the old server is sudo crotab -uroot -e where all the koha > cronjobs are setup. > > This is a user crontab still. Was the old system a source-based > installation > or was it a packages based installation? If you are finding user crontabs, > then it likely was a source-based installation. Why do you need to have > the > new system as a source-based install? A package-based installation sets up > all the crontab jobs you need by default for you already. No crontab job > tweaks required. > > Seriously, please consider a packages base > d > installation: > http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages > > > And thirdly and lastly, did you actually go looking for crontab jobs > manually? Like the following done on a package installation of Koha that > we > are using in production. > > $ cd /etc/cron.d > $ ls -la > total 20 > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 11 17:29 . > drwxr-xr-x 98 root root 4096 Jul 7 17:39 .. > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 422 Nov 22 2013 koha-common > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 102 Jun 19 2012 .placeholder > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 396 Dec 16 2011 sysstat > $ cat koha-common > # /etc/cron.d/koha-common > # > # Call koha-rebuild-zebra for each enabled Koha instance, to make sure the > # Zebra indexes are up to date. > > SHELL=/bin/sh > PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin > > */5 * * * * root test -x /usr/sbin/koha-rebuild-zebra && > koha-rebuild-zebra -q $(koha-list --enabled) > */15 * * * * root koha-foreach --enabled --email > /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/process_message_queue.pl > $ cd ../cron.daily > $ ls -la > total 84 > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jun 25 11:55 . > drwxr-xr-x 98 root root 4096 Jul 7 17:39 .. > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 633 Jul 12 2013 apache2 > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 219 Apr 10 2012 apport > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 15399 Jul 16 2013 apt > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 314 Apr 18 2013 aptitude > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 502 Mar 31 2012 bsdmainutils > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 256 Jan 7 2013 dpkg > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1410 Nov 22 2013 koha-common > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 372 Oct 4 2011 logrotate > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1365 Dec 28 2012 man-db > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 606 Aug 17 2011 mloc > ate > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 249 Sep 12 2012 passwd > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 102 Jun 19 2012 .placeholder > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2417 Jul 1 2011 popularity-contest > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2947 Jun 19 2012 standard > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 469 Dec 16 2011 sysstat > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 214 Sep 10 2012 update-notifier-common > $ cat koha-common > #!/bin/sh > # /etc/cron.daily/koha-common -- Daily housekeeping tasks for all Kohas. > # Copyright 2010 Catalyst IT, Ltd > # > # This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify > # it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by > # the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or > # (at your option) any later version. > # > # This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, > # but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of > # MERCHANTABILITY or FI > TNESS > FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the > # GNU General Public License for more details. > # > # You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License > # along with this program. If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>. > > koha-foreach --enabled --email > /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/overdue_noticest > koha-foreach --enabled /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/fines.pl > koha-foreach --enabled --email > /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/advance_noticesc > koha-foreach --enabled > /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/holds/cancel_expired_hol > /dev/null 2>&1 > koha-foreach --enabled /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/services_throttle.pl > > > null 2>&1 > koha-foreach --enabled > > /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/cleanup_database.pl --sns --zebraqueue 10 > koha-foreach --enabled --noemail > /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/cleanup_databl --mail > koha-run-backups --days 2 --output /var/spool/koha > $ cd ../cron.hourly > $ ls -la > total 16 > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 11 17:29 . > drwxr-xr-x 98 root root 4096 Jul 7 17:39 .. > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 840 Nov 22 2013 koha-common > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 102 Jun 19 2012 .placeholder > $ cat koha-common > #!/bin/sh > # /etc/cron.hourly/koha-common -- Hourly housekeeping tasks for all Kohas. > # Copyright 2010 Catalyst IT, Ltd > # > # This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify > # it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by > # the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or > # (at your option) any later version. > # > # > This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, > # but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of > # MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the > # GNU General Public License for more details. > # > # You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License > # along with this program. If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>. > > > koha-foreach --enabled > /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/holds/build_holds_queue.pl > > And checking out cron.monthly and cron.weekly failed to find a koha-common > file. > > And by the way, running a zebra process twice for the same instance is a > bad > thing to do. So please check /etc/cron.* before you use what was suggested > by Vashil Patil. > > GPML, > Mark Tompsett > > -----Original Message----- > From: > Phillip Ponchot > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 1:21 PM > To: Robin Sheat > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Koha] Crontab - is that one tabs used to open beer cans? > > There is a "systems" crontab which ubuntu warns not to change. The > crontab > on the old server is sudo crotab -uroot -e where all the koha cronjobs are > setup. When I run this command on the new server there's info about the > crontab but there are no jobs in the crontab so I guess I'll have to > create > them to get koha to run properly. > > Thanks for your help. Phillip > > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 16:14:40 +1200 > Subject: Re: [Koha] Crontab - is that one tabs used to open beer cans? > > Phillip Ponchot schreef op zo 06-07-2014 om 21:09 [-070 > 0]: > Thank you so much. Its easier to use one that is already built than > to spend hours trying to build the crontab. I appreciate you're > sharing. Phillip > > Go with what Mark said to start with: you're viewing the user crontab > when you use crontab -e, and that's most likely not what you want. > > The Koha-specific one lives in /etc/crontab or as a file > within /etc/crontab.d. > > -- > Robin Sheat > Catalyst IT Ltd. > ✆ +64 4 803 2204 > GPG: 5FA7 4B49 1E4D CAA4 4C38 8505 77F5 B724 F871 3BDF > > > Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org > [email protected] > http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha > > > Ko > ha > mailing list http://koha-community.org > [email protected] > http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha > > > > Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org > [email protected] > http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha > > > -- > > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. 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