Yeah Yes - Terms of reference (I call them bylaws). On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Paul A <[email protected]> wrote:
> At 05:58 AM 7/5/2015 -0700, Brendan Gallagher wrote: > >> Hi Paul - >> >> Yes the bylaws that we are voting on are listing on this page on the >> wiki. >> >>  <http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Fundraising> >> http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Fundraising (it's the bottom >> sections) >> > > Brendan -- thanks. The Wiki page seems to call them "terms of reference" > rather than "bylaws", hence my confusion. > > Best -- Paul > > > Thanks, >> Brendan >> >> On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 7:16 AM, Paul A <<mailto: >> [email protected]>[email protected]> wrote: >> At 05:53 PM 7/3/2015 -0700, Brendan Gallagher wrote: >> Hi All - >> >> Just a reminder - the general IRC meeting is in a few days - we (the >> committee) need your comments and thoughts on the bylaws before that >> meeting. >> >> >> Brendan, >> >> Firstly, thank you for all you are doing. >> >> A couple of points re: the draft MoU at << >> http://kete.library.org.nz/site/documents/show/368-draft-mou-v2-for-koha-fund >> > >> http://kete.library.org.nz/site/documents/show/368-draft-mou-v2-for-koha-fund >> >: >> >> 1) Given recent discussion on this list, I might suggest dropping 6.12 >> and references to 'Listed Koha Support Company[ies]' in 11.2 and 11.6. (All >> "companies" are equal, unendorsed by the community.) >> >> 2) Is it 4? or 6? "representatives of the Koha Community" (there seems to >> be some difference between the [current version of the] Wiki page and the >> draft MoU. >> >> We're going to be voting on the bylaws at that meeting as we've >> had more than a month with the bylaws. >> >> >> Is a draft copy of such bylaws available? And do these correspond to 11.4 >> of the MoU? >> >> Quorum [Wiki page] -- "at least 50% of the membership." I agree with >> the 50% (even 50% + 1 if there are an even number; certainly not a >> minority), but find the word "membership" confusing. I'm fairly sure you >> mean 50% of the representatives elected by the community, but could you be >> more specific? >> >> Best regards -- Paul >> >> >> We are all ready to move forward >> with getting money ready for the project and we've got tons of innovative >> ideas for fund raising! >> >> The American Library Association meeting was just last weekend - and there >> are tons of librarians and libraries that are interested in Koha and know >> of Koha.  Let's keep the momentum going and show them we're a large and >> active group. >> >> Thanks, >> Brendan >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 8:37 PM, Brendan Gallagher < >> <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Done. If anyone has more please send them along. >> > >> > On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Brendan Gallagher < >> > <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> I will add in those thoughts to the doc tomorrow (I will be returning >> to >> >> full time work then). If others have other suggestions let's hear >> them :) >> >> >> >> Thanks Jo - hopefully you got the ball started in the right direction >> we >> >> all needed. >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Brendan >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Joann Ransom <<mailto: >> [email protected]>[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> I have had some thoughts: >> >>> >> >>> 1. Structure: I see no reason why a person should be limited to 3 >> years >> >>> of service. I am happy for people to offer themselves up for election >> as >> >>> many times as they like; the community will decide if they are still >> adding >> >>> value to the committee; >> >>> >> >>> 2. Meetings: In addition to monthly formal meetings, my expectation is >> >>> that the committee will make heavy use of email for discussion and >> debate >> >>> in order to accommodate a globally disbursed committee straddling many >> >>> timezones. This includes the ability to pass motions via email >> PROVIDED >> >>> THAT such decisions and resolutions are recorded in the minutes of the >> >>> monthly meetings; >> >>> >> >>> 3.  Quorum: how about at least 50% of the membership. The reason >> being >> >>> that 3 is only 30% of a 9 member committee. If the committee is 7 >> then you >> >>> require 4 for a quorum. I am loath to support a 'miniority' rules >> situation. >> >>> >> >>> I have not considered what might be missing so I may well come back >> for >> >>> second bite at this! >> >>> >> >>> Cheers Jo >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: Koha [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >> >>> Brendan Gallagher >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2015 9:33 a.m. >> >>> To: Mirko Tietgen >> >>> Cc: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] >> >>> Subject: Re: [Koha] Koha Fundraising Committee Draft Terms of >> Reference >> >>> >> >>> Great anyone have more thoughts? >> >>> >> >>> BTW nothing has been done "behind the scenes"... All discussions >> have >> >>> been posted to the mailing lists and talked about and presented at >> >>> conferences / hackfests. Nothing has or will be hidden. I just >> want to >> >>> make sure that we're clear on that :) >> >>> >> >>> Has anyone reviewed the document at all? And there was no push to >> get >> >>> the bylaws voted on at the last meeting because we fell short of a >> long >> >>> enough review period (but since we had finished the doc we wanted to >> make >> >>> sure it was available for some discussion at the general >> meeting)... Not >> >>> to vote on. >> >>> >> >>> Mirko we need more volunteers - are you willing to help here? You >> have >> >>> good opinions. >> >>> >> >>> Thanks, >> >>> Brendan >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Mirko Tietgen < >> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> > I don't know how to say this without stepping on anyone's toes, but >> I >> >>> > think this discussion is taking a problematic direction. I don't >> think >> >>> > it is good to tie the general discussion and decision on all things >> >>> > fundraising to the personal situation of people that may be funded >> >>> > once all is settled. >> >>> > >> >>> > I refuse to agree I »have put somebody in a difficult >> situation« >> >> >>> > because I opposed voting on things that were made public on very >> short >> >>> > notice before meetings. I was not informed I was discussing anyone's >> >>> > situation. A situation I knew nothing about. >> >>> > >> >>> > It seems like behind the scenes it has already been agreed to >> >>> > 1) put money into the fund >> >>> > 2) pay somebody with that money >> >>> > >> >>> > so I have a simple proposal for the parties involved. Please >> consider >> >>> > contracting people directly until the fundraising stuff is actually >> up >> >>> > and running and everybody is happy. >> >>> > >> >>> > Hope that does not anger anyone, >> >>> > >> >>> > Mirko >> >>> > >> >>> > PS. Yes, I would like to see Jonathan continue his fine work on >> Koha. >> >>> > Just to make that clear. >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > -- >> >>> > >> >>> > Mirko Tietgen >> >>> > <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] >> >>> > http://koha.abunchofthings.net >> >>> > <http://meinkoha.de>http://meinkoha.de >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > _______________________________________________ >> >>> > Koha mailing list <http://koha-community.org> >> http://koha-community.org <mailto:[email protected]> >> [email protected] >> >>> > <https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha> >> https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> >> >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> Brendan A. 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