Greetings,

Koha can run in https and http simultaneously. I've done it.
But it requires manually configuring your apache configuration.

https://ip:80 and https://ip:8080 don't work.
https is generally port 443.

Forbidden errors sound like an apache configuration issue as well.
https://wiki.koha-community.org/w/index.php?title=Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages#403_errors_for_Gitified_or_git_clone_installs
Granted, the path may need tweaking, but you installed the system, so you 
should know what to change it to.

http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/ is a long, but useful read.

GPML,
Mark Tompsett 

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