I really appreciate your reply Eric, thank you.  I will check out your link.  
Alas, this is also a bit of a disaster.  I see my workload increasing.  ☺

If staff will be using SQL, I have reservations about unintentional changes or 
deletions.  Once a Report is created, are you just using SQL to change field 
data as well, or is there a different tool available that staff may use to 
actually apply their changes?

Thanks for your time,


Tasha R. Bales

From: Eric Phetteplace [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 12:48 PM
To: Bales (US), Tasha R <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Koha] Advice for how to update huge numbers of bib 
records, for former Millennium user


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Hi Tasha,

We were also a former Millennium library that migrated to Koha, though it's 
been a while (migrated in 2016). Reports are essentially Millennium's "Lists" 
but they require more skill to create. So your example would need to be a SQL 
Report filtering according to the properties you've laid out (e.g. biblios not 
linked to the orders table, with item location in (X, Y, Z), biblio.author != 
'AUTHOR', etc.).

I hosted workshops (here's a recording of one<https://youtu.be/K0zTu4qZ88c>) 
with our catalogers and other technicians on learning basic SQL and I write the 
more sophisticated reports for them. You can use runtime parameters to make the 
reports a little more flexible so that staff can adjust them to changing needs 
but they're not going to be able to accomplish much on their own without an 
understanding of SQL. I never use the guided reports in Koha and my memory of 
the few times I tried was that you couldn't accomplish anything substantial, 
but then again I prefer working in SQL anyways as it's so much more powerful 
than abstractions like Guided Reports or Create Lists.

Best,

ERIC PHETTEPLACE Systems Librarian, Libraries (he/him)

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On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 10:15 AM Bales (US), Tasha R 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
What would be the Koha equivalent to Millennium Create Lists* (or Alma 
Normalization Rules and Record Sets)?

So far, I see that lists and carts can be used to update records in Koha, but 
this seems to demand working with a pre-determined list of record numbers, or 
else by manually adding items to a cart.  What if I need to update a huge 
number of "unknown" records meeting specific criteria?

Can anyone suggest what the approach would be to accomplish an objective like 
this:

A non-administrator with limited technical skills needs to gather and update 
40,000 bib records in Koha that can't be identified by any single unifying 
attributes.  My Millennium query might have looked like this:

*         Bib record not attached to order AND

*         (Location is Y or Location is X or Location is Z) and

*         Author is not TODD and

*         Note doesn't have FREE

*Millennium Create Lists allows you to create a Boolean Search, with up to 
about 20 statements, to query the entire database (various methods to search 
subsets or existing result sets also exist) and saves it to a file that can 
then be exported, or operated on (to apply global updates to fixed or variable 
fields, for instance).  No knowledge of SQL is needed.

Thanks in advance for any tips.  As an administrator, I could conceivably do 
this with SQL, but that's not feasible for cataloging staff.  We update large 
quantities of records all the time.


Tasha R. Bales
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