Hi Aida, (this one's going to the Koha list as well)

Based on my quick look, the formats for MARC and UNIMARC are very different, 
and not really compatible. You can see the complete MARC structure here:
   https://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/
I couldn't find a similar site for UNIMARC, but the Library of Congress has a 
page of UNIMARC to MARC 21 Conversion Specification:
   https://www.loc.gov/marc/unimarctomarc21.html

Are you really, really sure that you'll never need an ISBN? When I've done 
Z39.50 searching, that's the first thing I look for. I use MarcEdit though, and 
I think Koha Z39.50 may let you search than more than one field at a time.

And finally, and not related to your current conundrum, Koha will let you add 
fields even if they're not MARC or UNIMARC standard. For the past 
nevermindhowmanyweeks I've been rebuilding the MedStar Authors catalog (the one 
in my signature is still the old one). For example, I wanted a field for ORCID 
numbers, so I created the 858 field based on the 856 field, which I use for 
DOIs. You can also edit the Search Results and Search Detail xsl files to put 
whatever you want on the OPAC. I'll have more to share on this soon, I hope.

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Hello Donna,

Thank you very much! Yes, for theses I don't foresee using fields such as ISBN 
or some others, and we don't import theses from anywhere else, so I would be 
fine with removing each field we won't need.

I will check that custom framework, that's very kind of you. I have two 
separate installations of Koha – one on a work server with UNIMARC flavor as 
that's what's used in my country, and another on my old personal laptop which 
is MARC21; does it matter where I upload the framework?

Best regards

Aida Đikić


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Hello Aida!

If you are sure you will never be importing records that would have those tags, 
then yes, go ahead and delete them!  We do custom frameworks a lot for special 
projects like you mention, and usually delete the extraneous fields.

If you would like to use it, you can access here 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/196CGH2J_6_UtLUZf7zlo0sybT66NrVxV/view?usp=sharing
 a framework that we worked with a library to create for their 
thesis/dissertations.
You can download the framework file as .csv, then import it into a new 
framework.

The only concern with deleting fields from a framework is that if you import a 
record that has, for example, an 036, and the framework you are importing the 
file into does not have that field then the data is lost.
But with the process you are describing, I don't see any issues with deleting 
certain fields.

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Hello all,

Today I have another question for you regarding MARC frameworks and cataloging 
different items. While I wait for our IT to export the cataloged textbooks from 
our current system, I've been refreshing my knowledge on UNIMARC, going through 
the exported theses (2008-2018; for later ones I don't have an exported csv 
file yet) and trying to work out how best to adapt the MARC framework so they 
can be imported. I've also been looking up the mail archive to see how others 
have dealth with cataloging theses - if any of you could share your practice 
I'd be grateful!

I downloaded the Books, Booklets, Workbooks framework I adapted from the 
Default framework, and in going through the tags I saw there were many I would 
never use; would these be OK to delete? I mean tags such as 20 Fingerprint 
Identifier, 21 Legal Deposit Number, or 36 Music Incipit, and others. For the 
eventual Theses framework, I also would not need tags such as 10 International 
Standard Book Number (ISBN) or 11 International Standard Serial Number (ISSN) 
and many other, but would need a tag where I could list the student mentor for 
that particular thesis. I'd also like to add a Serial publications framework.

Would I actually be safe in deleting these tags, or is there a better way to 
handle them? In my earlier efforts to add Z39.50 servers, I tested adding a 
title I had in hand, but I am being prevented from saving it since some of the 
tags were blank upon import and I wasn't sure how to fill them out.


Best regards

Aida Đikić


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