My reply,
        This is the best approach I have seen to fighting the theft of the
presidential election.  It is not the last word but it is the best that
I am aware of so far.
 
for the cause,
 
 Klo

Someone said:

> This is the most sensible and logical way to make our voices heard.
> Someone needs to draft a letter and EVERYONE get
> into action...
> 
> If you haven't read this, take the time and read it now.
> 
> Then someone with some really good writing skills, possibly you
> Clarity,
> could draft a letter for Dean and foreign media and
> everyone start sending it out, everywhere.... bombard them! They are
> much more receptive to what we have to say. If
> we're consistent and persistant, it'll trickle down.
> 
> It's great to see all the new evidence popping up but time is off the
> essence here.
> 
> So let's organized and take action. We have the facts, now let's
> deliver...
> 
> Clarity Sanderson-Jonker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>           As you know, Dean hosted a show Topic A with Tina Brown on
> CNBC ( see www
>           udpc.org/evote.htm for video clip) with Bev Harris of
> blackboxvoting.org
>           demonstrating how to hack an election in under 2 minutes by
> changing numbers
>           at the central tabulator.
> 
>           I just got the following article and I've sent it on to the
> co-chair of the
>           Utah Democratic Progressive Caucus who knows Peter Corroon,
> who just won
>           Utah County Mayor and happens to be Howard Dean's first
> cousin. Craig Axford
>           know's Peter, and knows Peter's twin brother Chris fairly
> well. Craig has
>           also been in contact with Michael Moore's staff when MMoore
> came to Utah to
>           speak and our group, the Utah Democratic Progressive Caucus,
> did voter
>           registration at the event.
> 
>           All that said, I just received the following and I think
> perhaps we can get
>           Dean on this - and Dean is known worldwide - could get the
> international
>           press we need.
> 
>           Take a look:
> 
>           Forward freely...
> 
>           Draft Dean
>           By Stephen Dinan
> 
>           www.stephendinan.com
>           Permanent link:
> http://www.stephendinan.com/2004/11/draft-dean.html
> 
>           As evidence mounts that this election was likely stolen, it
> becomes
>           imperative that the unleashed outrage is channeled into
> effective political
>           action. I submit that the most important next step for this
> work is to
>           unify around a nationally-recognized and credible
> spokesperson
> who also has
>           access to elite Democratic circles.
> 
>           We owe a great deal to people like Bev Harris of Black Box
> Voting, who have
>           led the charge to this point. She will be a key player as
> this scandal
>           unfolds. But for the full power of the outrage to be
> harnessed, we need a
>           political leader who is already established on the national
> stage,
>           especially one with an organizational infrastructure that
> can
> be activated.
>           I believe that person is Howard Dean.
> 
>           I say this not because I supported him in the primaries (I
> backed Kucinich)
>           but because he has exactly the right assets to turn the
> undirected outrage
>           of the moment into an unstoppable movement. He ran as an
> outsider to the
>           Washington establishment but he has access and respect
> within
> the halls of
>           power. He effectively channeled the anti-war sentiment into
> a political
>           force. He has a fighting spirit and balls of steel. He had
> the
> courage to
>           air a national special on electronic voting with Bev Harris,
> so he knows how
>           easily fraud can be accomplished. And he has a loyal base of
> support that
>           can be re-activated.
> 
>           Right now, the Democratic establishment is playing this
> issue very
>           conservatively and that is unlikely to change until the
> movement reaches a
>           certain level of power. That means the Kerry campaign
> structures and DNC are
>           effectively out of play. They will be brought online once
> the movement
>           reaches critical mass, but until that moment, we can�t
> utilize
> the vast
>           infrastructure or money the Kerry campaign has at its
> disposal. We need to
>           build momentum with an �outsider�s� structure until the
> �insider�s�
>           structure feels safe enough to activate. That�s why we need
> to
> focus energy
>           on drafting Dean � he�s the best bridge between the
> outsiders
> and the
>           insiders.
> 
>           Dean himself may start out resistant to the process, but
> that�s ok. Looking
>           back, it as if the anti-war movement drafted Dean rather
> than Dean
>           harnessing the anti-war movement. The massive sense of
> unrest
> about the war
>           needed to find a focal point within the Democratic Party, a
> way to exert
>           leverage. And, despite all the other ways that he didn�t
> carry
> a strongly
>           progressive message, Dean was drafted for that duty,
> surprising everyone
>           with the power of his run.
> 
>           I believe that if we start a strong national movement to
> re-activate the
>           Dean networks and put positive pressure on Dean himself, the
> election
>           stealing issue will quickly become front-page news. It takes
> time to
>           develop relationships of trust and accountability, which is
> why it is best
>           to mobilize people who have already worked together and
> learned to become
>           efficient. We don�t have time to cobble together a whole new
> infrastructure
> 
>           Other political leaders will play a role, of course.
> Representatives John
>           Conyers of Michigan, Jerrold Nadler of New York and Robert
> Wexler of Florida
>           have all started an investigation into irregularities,
> although they say
>           they are not seeking to overturn the election results (
> http://www.wired
>           com/news/evote/0,2645,65623,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_2)
>           Ralph Nader has come out as a vociferous critic but his
> credibility is at a
>           lifetime low. As momentum builds, many others will take a
> stand.
> 
>           A few thoughts on effectively coalescing a movement:
> 
>           Evidence gathering - We should channel our support for the
> legal groundwork
>           to Bev Harris of Black Box Voting, which is doing the
> largest
> filing for
>           information under the Freedom of Information Act ever,
> demanding the
>           computer logs from over 3,000 voting machines around the
> country. That
>           effort can serve as an important legal wing of operations
> (www
>           blackboxvoting.org) as momentum builds
>           State Focus - We should focalize our energy on Ohio and
> Florida, because
>           those two states are the key to overturning the election
> results and have
>           some of the strongest evidence of vote stealing and
> manipulation. There is
>           evidence emerging in many other states but Ohio and Florida
> are key to
>           overturning the election itself.
>           Language � George Lakoff has written about how masterfully
> the
> right wing
>           has used the framing of issues, a lesson we need to learn.
> Every time you
>           refer to the election, I encourage you to use the word
> �stealing.� Stealing
>           is more personal than fraud and hits people on a visceral
> level. It takes
>           time for ideas to penetrate the dominant culture, so
> hammering
> away with
>           the same terms is good strategy. Think of how the Bush
> campaign smeared
>           Kerry with the term �flip-flopper� No one could escape it.
> Ideally, every
>           time you refer to the election, refer to it as the �stolen
> election.� If
>           you�re less sure, then phrase it as a question, as in, �Do
> you
> think the
>           election could have been stolen?� Fraud is vague and
> impersonal; stealing
>           is very personal.
>           Repetition � To build an idea in the public consciousness
> takes many, many
>           exposures. The more times that people get information in
> their
> inbox and
>           the more sources they hear something from, the more credible
> it becomes.
>           Don�t be shy about sharing your suspicions and forwarding
> the
> best material
> 
>           Foreign media � One of the best ways that our allies in
> other
> countries can
>           help is to put heavy pressure on their own media to cover
> the
> evidence that
>           America�s election was likely stolen. As news reports build
> around the
>           world, it will force American media to start covering. Right
> now, the
>           American media is so compromised that I don�t think we
> should
> focus on it
>           first. England might be the best place to start.
> 
>           If people in this country rise up powerfully on this, we can
> create a
>           historic victory. I want to make my prediction right now:
> this election�s
>           results will not stand and Bush will not serve out four
> years.
> 
>           Here are some resources to get you going. At the bottom,
> I�ve
> included an
>           analysis by esteemed sociologist Paul Ray of how to go about
> building an
>           airtight scientific case for fraud that I don�t believe is
> published
>           anywhere:
> 
>           Best 30-minute introduction: www.votergate.tv
>           Other good orgs: www.verifiedvotring.org ,
>           www.votewatch.us
> 
>           Key articles:
> 
>           Evidence Mounts that Vote was Hacked, by Thom Hartmann
>           http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1106-30.htm
> 
>           The Ultimate Felony Against Democracy, by Thom Hartmann
>           http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1104-38.htm
> 
>           Kerry Won by Greg Palast
>           http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1104-36.htm
> 
>           More In-depth Article List � Thanks to Prof. Hugh Urbana
> from
> Ohio State
>           University for this list.
> 
>           Pre-Nov. 2 articles warning of the possibility of Electronic
> voting fraud
>           and other problems:
> 
>           Computer Voting is Open to Easy Fraud, Experts Say (New York
> Times)
>           http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/24/technology/24VOTE.html
> 
>           Black Box Voting Blues (Newsweek)
>           http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3339650/
> 
>           How They Could Steal the Election this Time (The Nation)
>           http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040816&s=dugger
> 
>           More Problems Arise with Black Box Voting (USA Today)
> 
> http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columnist/andrewkantor/2004-06-04-kantor_x.htm
> 
>           Charges of Fraud and Voter Suppression Already Flying
> 
> http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/01/politics/campaign/01voting.html
> 
>           Twelve Ways Bush is Now Stealing the Ohio Vote
>           http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/810
> 
>           Voter Fraud and Disenfranchisement
>           http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/10/31/192155/73
> 
>           See also http://blackboxvoting.org/
> 
>           Evidence of Voting problems in the Nov. 2 Election
> 
>           Massive Voter Suppression and Corruption in Ohio (Global
> Research, Canada)
>           http://globalresearch.ca/articles/SOL411A.html
> 
>           Russian Observer Shocked by U.S. Election Procedures
>           http://www.mosnews.com/news/2004/11/03/russianobserver.shtml
> 
>           Signs of Voter Fraud Appear (LA Times)
> 
> http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/2004/la-navotefraud27oct27,0,1877750
>           story?coll=la-home-headlines
> 
>           Black Box Voting declares 2004 Election a Fraud
>           http://blackboxvoting.org/
> 
>           Voting Machine Error Gives Bush Extra Ohio Votes (NBC)
>           http://www.nbc4i.com/politics/3894867/detail.html
> 
>           Michael Moore's Election Watch, 2004, with reports of fraud
> from every state
>           http://www.michaelmoore.com/electionwatch/
> 
>           Ohio Voting Fraud reports
>           http://www.michaelmoore.com/electionwatch/state.php?state=OH
> 
>           Evidence Mounts that Vote was Hacked
>           http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1106-30.htm
> 
>           Florida Rigged the Optical Scanners
>           http://blog.democrats.com/florida
> 
>           Votes Lost and Extras Counted in E-voting Errors
>           http://www.thestandard.com/internetnews/000563.php
> 
>           Kerry margins: Exit Poll vs. Actual Vote
>           http://www.democraticunderground.com/
> 
>           Was the Ohio Election Honest and Fair?
>           http://www.rense.com/general59/wastheohioelectionhonest.htm
> 
>           2004 Election Vote Fraud
> 
> http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2004/031104votefraud.htm
> 
>           Exit Polls and Actual Polls Don't Match
>           http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=388
> 
>           Fixed: The Stealing of Another Election
>           http://www.rense.com/general59/steI.HTM
> 
>           Voting Machine Controversy
>           http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0828-08.htm
> 
>           Electronic Voting Machine Woes Reported (ABC News)
>           http://www.globetechnology.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20041103
>           gtvotenov3/BNStory/Technology/
> 
>           More Evidence of Voting Machine Errors
> 
> http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2004/031104machineerrors.htm
> 
>           Lists of other articles on the subject:
> 
> http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/archives/cat_vote_fraud.html
> 
>           Insights from Paul Ray, Ph.D., sociologist and author of The
> Cultural
>           Creatives
> 
>           We don't need an impossible vote recount from
> no-paper-trail-machines
>           to show that the vote was probably stolen. There's another
> way--and
>           it's not even hard.
> 
>           Odds are very high the election was stolen, judging from
> just
> the
>           initial "evidence" being offered all over the internet. I
> say
> this as
>           a social scientist who has done innumerable surveys. I have
> a
> Ph.D.
>           in sociology, and I have done statistical modelling for over
> 30
>           years, and I say this is an easy research design to make a
> convincing
>           case.
> 
>           Your best rhetoric should be to use "the odds" to set up a
> legally
>           binding re-examination of the vote in the swing states:
> Having
> really
>           objective researchers calling voters to see who they voted
> for. Even
>           the dumbest mouth-breather can get the idea that the
> election
> might
>           have been stolen, and that experts can give the odds that it
> was.
> 
>           The best thing you can do to advance the progressive cause
> is
> to
>           participate in the detailed examination of the discrepancy
> in
>           percentage vote between exit polls and recorded vote. Exit
> polls are
>           remarkably accurate, historically in the US, and elsewhere,
> say in
>           Germany. Hire some top experts in political science
> methodology RIGHT
>           NOW and put them to work on this.
> 
>           It simply takes a 2-stage strategy to set up the third and
> final
>           stage of a challenge to the election, i.e., legally binding
>           contacting of those who are listed as voting:
>           1) Do an initial analysis, state by state, and precinct by
> by
>           precinct of the publicly listed discrepancy between exit
> polls
> and
>           the recorded vote. Not just for Kerry vs. Bush, but also for
>           contested Congressional seats. That will tell you if you
> have
>           something suspicious. There's lots of yelling going on on
> the
>           internet, and some of it is very suggestive. This stage
> would
> say if
>           it's worthwhile going on.
> 
>           2) Do a random sampling of people listed as having voted in
> those
>           counties you detected as having suspiciously large
> discrepancies in
>           key states. Ask who they voted for, for Congress and
> President. You
>           need a good survey house, like Zogby, to do this right. It
> will take
>           a big sample size, so it won't be cheap. Doing this quickly
> may
>           overwhelm single firms, so you may need to hire several,
> with
> a
>           single political scientist controlled methodology giving
> them
>           directions.
>           (Note: A lot of the polling firms will want to rescue their
> damaged
>           reputations, and may be glad to participate for reduced
> profits.)
> 
>           For both stage 1 and stage 2 your researchers are looking
> for
> two
>           kinds of discrepancies, not one:
>           A) Electronic Vote Recording Fraud: in the swing states, all
> you have
>           to fund is studies comparing that discrepancy for districts
> where
>           there was electronic voting without a paper trail to where
> there was.
>           Any competent statistical program will give you the odds
> whether the
>           result appeared by chance.
>           We can mobilize Democrats and progressives around voting
> fraud.
>           Here's how to set it up so scientifically that it supports a
> legal
>           case for a full blown challenge:
> 
>           If it is true, as it now appears, that "exit poll failures"
> occurred
>           mostly where there's no paper trail, then there's a prima
> facie case
>           that the recorded voters need to be systematically polled by
> phone
>           and by mail, by truly impartial researchers to say who they
> voted
>           for, for congress and for president.
> 
>           B) Spoiled Ballots and Ballots Never Recorded: For example:
> It
>           appears that Blackwell in Ohio is refusing to give the
> legally
>           required spoilage numbers. Odds are high that too many votes
> were
>           thrown away, simply unrecorded. Greg Palast is claiming
> loudly
> that
>           this happened in a number of states, and was done
> systematically by
>           Republicans. This was once the norm in the South, and may
> simply have
>           come back in more sophisticated form. This can be detected
>           statistically from examining exit polls as well, though it's
> probably
>           a little more complicated.
> 
>           Notice that the statistical tables are only a little more
> complex if
>           both vote spoilage and electronic voting machine fraud were
> going on
>           simultaneously. You simply have to control for both kinds of
>           tampering, and compare a good sample of what people say they
> did with
>           the outcome. It's a big sample size, but it will set up the
> later,
>           full count.
> 
>           Again, the second stage will say whether you have a good
> basis
> for
>           Stage 3: to go to court to demand a full and complete
> recontact of
>           people who are listed as voting.
> 
>           Kerry has $45 million for legal challenges. We need to
> persuade him to use
>           it.
>           We also need to contact major donors to the Dems, who should
> want to
>           protect their investment.
> 
>           Best regards,
> 
>           Paul H. Ray, Ph.D.
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> Subject: [socialistcomrade] [Fwd: [People-v-Ohio-n-Florida] Draft Dean for 
> our cause]
> Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 18:17:11 -0600
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