Le mardi 2 octobre 2007, Charles Connell a écrit :
> On Tuesday 02 October 2007 17:04, Olivier Goffart wrote:
> > Le mardi 2 octobre 2007, Dennis Nienhüser a écrit :
> > > Rafael Fernández López schrieb:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > On aKademy 2007 at Glasgow I had a very nice talk with Duncan (Kopete
> > > > project founder), and we were discussing about the term
> > > > "Metacontact".
> > > >
> > > > We wanted to focus Kopete to persons. Probably Metacontact is a
> > > > not-intuitive way of referring to a person (a person with different
> > > > accounts yeah, but a person).
> > > >
> > > > The word "Metacontact" in this context is probably not needed, and we
> > > > could rename it to something else, as I said to focus it more to
> > > > "Persons".
> > >
> > > Any reason against naming it "Person" then? Technically we have
> > > metacontacts that are linked to addressbook entries, and accounts
> > > belonging to exactly one metacontact. Conceptually, the technical thing
> > > "metacontact" is a person which ideally already exists in my
> > > addressbook.
> > >
> > > I wouldn't name it "User" though, as this term is often not only used
> > > for the person itself, but also their accounts.
> >
> > Eh, great topics :-)
> >
> > I've heard one user call it "Super Contact". I liked the name, but this
> > doesn't represent really what is it.
> >
> > IMO "MetaContact" should probably renamed simply "Contact", as it is the
> > term used in KAddressBook AFAIK
>
> No, I disagree. The common instant messaging lingo refers to a "contact" as
> an AIM screenname, or an MS Live account, or a ICQ number, etc. Using
> "contact" in a way that is so close to--but yet different from--its common
> usage would cause undue confusion.

No no no  that's wrong IMO
From my experience this is not the case.
It is only the case for us, developers.

I think that "contact" mean "person that i can contact", and a contact may 
have several accounts.

( http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/contact )

> Also, current Kopete users would be confused when a term they already know
> changes meaning.

That's maybe true, but I'm not really sure it will pose usability problem 
because the meaning is not constant right now.

> > But the question is now: But how to call the subcontacts ?
> > "Account" is already taken by the user account.
> > In fact, why not call it "Address" ?  yes, subcontact are only object
> > contact for the protocol code. But in fact, for the user, they are just
> > addresse of the metacontact.
>
> "Address" is too easily confused with email address.

That's wrong either IMO. An "address" as it means nothing. It must be 
specified if it is a postal address, a email address, a jabber id, or a icq 
number.  But this is still the address, isn't it ?

I'm not a native english speaker anyway.
I have to admit that address is maybe not the best word. maybe "identifier" ?

We should not see the 'subcontacts' as object as it (in the interface) but 
rather as (meta)contact attributes

> In my opinion, Kopete should use Contact's (as they are now) contained
> within Person's (replacing MetaContact). KAddressBook calls a single person
> a "Contact", which is fine terminology for them, but due to already
> established instant messaging lingo, this would be too confusing for Kopete
> to use.

If KAB call a single person a "Contact", we should do that same, since a KAB 
contact is exactly the same thing as the current KopeteMetaContact.

Remember the idea that Kopete is just a sort of GUI for the addressbook.

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