Hi Patrick, > p.s.: even though this might sound a bit harsh (to late in > the night > over here), I just want to tell you the truth.
Thanks for the "harsh" truth--it saves us a lot of time and agony. OK, we will focus our translation efforts on Pidgin. > KDE on Windows is probably at maximum in a beta-stage. The > support for > KDE on Windows isn't great too - our team consists only of > a handfull > people doing that in their free time. We can appreciate the demands of volunteer work, since we are all working in our free time at Runasimipi.org as well. Best wishes and good luck with porting KDE to Windows. --Amos --- On Tue, 4/7/09, Patrick Spendrin <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Patrick Spendrin <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: How to compile Kopete for Windows? > To: "Amos Batto" <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 6:23 PM > Hi Kopete developers, > > >>>Has anyone written up instructions on how to > compile Kopete for Windows? > > > Hunting around on the internet, I was only able to find > this page about > compiling KDE > 4 apps, but nothing about Kopete specifically: > http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/Windows/emerge<<< > > This is the correct way to build KDE applications. > > >>>We have noticed that many youth today are using > Microsoft Messenger > in Andean cybercafes, so we have decided to translate a > Free > Software/Open Source instant messenger in Quechua and > Aymara. We are > thinking of translating Pigdin because it is known to work > well in > Windows and is included in BoliviaOS--a distribution of > GNU/Linux based > in Bolivia. Nonetheless, we would prefer to use Kopete, > since it has the > full voice and video capabilities of Microsoft Messenger. > <<< > > Here are my initial thoughts after downloading Kopete for > Windows, using > the KDE for Windows Installer for KDE 4.2.2: > > >>>To get Kopete for Windows, you first have to > download the KDE for > Windows Installer, which at 1.7MB is not ...[SNIP] > <<< > This is all correct. KDE on Windows is not easy to install. > The > installer currently has no support for single application > packages, as > we just do not have the time to package each and every KDE > application > individually (it is nevertheless planned). Also you just > hit a > systematic problem of KDE on Windows: KDE is designed as > collection of > highly integrated applications. This means that they do > share most of > their code - this makes each application very powerful but > increases the > amount of space to install one application by many times. > This leads to > the strange effect that for a "simple" messenger, you will > need > 120 MB > of packages. You can of course try to cut away each > unneeded Byte, but > this will need to much time imho. > > >>>But wait, it only comes in English. If you want > to use Kopete in > another language (like Spanish), you have to execute the > KDE for Windows > Installer again and select the correct aspell and l10n > package and > download another 17MB of files. You have to download all > the > localization files for every KDE application, although you > just want to > use *one* KDE application. <<< > see above. > > >>>I know that we should be grateful that KDE apps > now run under > Windows, but we clearly can't recommend that people use > Kopete for > Windows given how complicated it is to download and > install. What we > need is the ability to compile Kopete for Windows in a way > that the > average person can just click on the installer and it > installs like a > normal Windows app. Can anyone give me any pointers on how > to do this, > or do you recommend that we just use Pigdin since it has an > adequate > Windows installer?<<< > > As I have already said above, compiling "only" kopete will > not save you > enough space. And there is a second issue: stability. If > you have found > the status page you probably saw the Disclaimer on that > page: > > "Disclaimer These are early days for > KDE4 on Windows, some > programs work better than others and > some fail to run > altogether. " > > This is not the normal free software warning. This is the > pure truth. > KDE on Windows is probably at maximum in a beta-stage. The > support for > KDE on Windows isn't great too - our team consists only of > a handfull > people doing that in their free time. > At the moment there is no question - use Pidgin. > > >>>Sincerely, > Amos Batto<<< > > regards, > Patrick > > p.s.: even though this might sound a bit harsh (to late in > the night > over here), I just want to tell you the truth. > > -- > web: > http://windows.kde.org > mailing list: [email protected] > irc: > #kde-windows (irc.freenode.net) > _______________________________________________ kopete-devel mailing list [email protected] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kopete-devel
