Steward You emailed me first w/o CC'ing the list so I didn't take it offline..you did!
Here are the LISP ideas it had in 1950s. If later langs got some of these feature then that supports his claim that langs are evolving towards LISP currently... http://paulgraham.com/diff.html CS On Wed, Feb 02, 2005 at 10:23:43AM -0800, Stewart Stremler wrote: > begin quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] as of Wed, Feb 02, 2005 at 09:26:44AM -0800: > > > Well, Ruby and Java seem to owe more to Smalltalk than to Lisp, and C# > > > is Java-with-M$-sugar-on-top, which leaves Python, something I wouldn't > > > consider very lispy, but I could be wrong about the influences to Python. > > > > I'd put C# and Java in 'C family lang with LISP stuff mixed in' (garbage > > collection, etc.) > > Most of that comes by way of Objective-C and Smalltalk, actually, from > what I can tell. It's not like garbage collection is unique to Lisp. > > > Python is acquiring more and more LISP stuff. Ruby and Perl are very > > LISPy already with garbage collection and other fancy stuff in LISP. > > I suppose we'd need to agree on what constitutes a LISPy feature. I > wouldn't grant garbage-collection as a LISPy feature; I'd grant a single > data structure centric approach (in LISP, everything is a list, in > Python, everything is a Hashtable), but not garbage collection. > > > > If it weren't for Emacs, I'd say LISP is about as dead as you can get. > > > > I dunno. You may be right. Sad, sad, sad. > > Even dead languages have their fans. > > > > I think that perhaps LISPers see LISP everywhere. > > > > I'm not a LISPer so wouldn't know but perhaps. > > You need to find an anti-LISPer acknowledge that LISP is still kicking. :) > > So... why did you take this offline? > > -Stewart > -- _______________________________________ Christian Seberino, Ph.D. SPAWAR Systems Center San Diego Code 2872 49258 Mills Street, Room 158 San Diego, CA 92152-5385 U.S.A. Phone: (619) 553-9973 Fax : (619) 553-6521 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________ -- KPLUG-List mailing list [email protected] http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-list
