begin  quoting Gregory K. Ruiz-Ade as of Sat, Feb 12, 2005 at 11:34:51AM -0800:
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> Bad, bad news.  I have yet to find an Oracle or SAP deployment that is 
> on time and on budget.  Part of me thinks the sales weenies who set 
> these deals up need to be trained with electoshock therapy until they 
> learn to not be so optimistic...

Overruns should come out of their commission.

-Stewart "Underruns should result in a bonus for the implementors" Stremler
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