Stewart Stremler wrote:
Ow. May those bills be paid off soon. :)


Getting damn close my friend. The weight is becoming less and less. :D

I often wonder why so many UNIX folks are so against the use of an IDE (not referring to people here - though there may be some - but many people I've worked with).


Dunno about the rest, but most of 'em are abhorrent because they provide
such a crappy editor.  I don't _want_ and editor that forces me to grab
the mouse, for example.

Both Understand and Code Forge allow you to use the editor of your choice. The Code Forge editor has several modes it can operate in (including vi emulation - one of the original modes it ever used IIRC) as well as programmable hot keys.


Secondly, most of the IDEs I've worked with don't let you work on more than one file at a time -- sure, they have *tabs*, but I want to have two, three, four, or more editors open and visible at once.

Both can do that as well.


Third, using an IDE requires you to be present on the system, or to have a fast connection -- and a lot of UNIX people have spent years learning that the ability to log in remotely to work is a Good Thing[tm].

That is one drawback. If you don't have a fast connection, that running them remotely is more than painful (I once ran Quake 3 remotely over my LAN - it ran but boy was the frame rate low! :D )


The advantage of an IDE, as I see it, lies in the "lookahead" feature
of the editor, where it will look up the possible methods for a class
and let you chose the "correct" one, instead of having to guess or look it up.

Understand has got to be my favorite tool thus far. It gave me a fast enough understanding of the Linux kernel that I was able to make my Tyan board (back when almost no one had a dual Athlon system and Linux ran like crap on them) work with Linux.

It also allowed me to get a fast handle on the software at my new job and 
helped get me weeks ahead in my project. It's not really an IDE, though being 
extensible, with a Perl and C API, configurable menu and tool bar (I can 
compile from a user configured command), it can be used as one, and I use it as 
such.


Syntax hilighting? Got it. Make from within the editor? Got it. Jump to the compilation error? Got it.

Again, I have them as well.

PGA
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