begin  quoting Tracy R Reed as of Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 11:39:42AM +0700:
[snip]
> You guys are so pedantic. :P

Heh.

> Look at it this way: Windows does not have the reliability or security
> or general ease of operation when it comes to doing complex things that
> any Unix has.

I'm told the reliability is getting better.  Security is a dangerous
card to play, considering that more and more *nix users are accepting
external root control (apt/portage/yum/whatnot are neat tools, but
anything that downloads a script off the 'Net and runs it as root has
a fundamental problem, and _most_ uses don't run SELinux, and wouldn't
want to anyway).  And "ease of operation" doesn't fly for everyone.

>               So it is out in favor of some Unix. Of the Unix's I have
> seen on resumes of people I have interviewed in the past week: IRIX
> mentioned one time, BSD mentioned one time, Linux mentioned 12 times.
> Literally. I have the stack in front of me and I just counted. THIS is

Well, so that's a popularity test. And? 

> what my original point was. Sure it's easier to find Windows people than
> Linux people. That wasn't my point. Of the suitable operating systems
> Linux is the one easiest to find people for. I am having enough trouble
> finding qualified people over here as it is. I shudder to think how
> difficult it would be if I wanted BSD people.
 
Pick someone who has more than two flavors of *nix -- shoot, I would
count _only_ having experience in _one_ sort of *nix as a demerit on a
resume, the same as having only one programming language.

You're going to have to teach 'em your way anyway.

[snip]
> And MS can leverage code from BSD but BSD can't leverage code from
> Windows. What's your point? I like this unequal exchange.

I may like cheating at games. That doesn't make it fair.

>                                                           I like the
> 'viral nature of the GPL'. I want software to be free and if you aren't
> willing to make yours free go borrow from someone else. But this has
> been discussed in many virtual churches, synagogues, mosques, and
> pagodas over many years now. We all know where we stand so there isn't
> much point in arguing it.

Heh.

At least you admit the viral nature.  That's the first step to recovery.

> >>Isn't that a "religious" reason?
> > 
> > Nope.
> 
> I think it is.
 
I don't. And?

> > Alternatives are nice because the help to offset complacency.
> 
> Indeed!

And this is why I like emacs being out there, even though it is non-unixy.

-Stewart "The FSF *still* can't get a decent Java VM going" Stremler
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