> I tend to avoid going to the Desktop Summits because the admission price
> is out of sight for an individual. They expect companies to pick up the
> tab when they send their techs. My company doesn't even like paying for
> the books I buy to educate myself instead of being sent to school. :-\

Through the SDOSS group it was $25.00  I went because it was cheap =P 
The company I work for won't pay for it, but they at least paid me for
the three days there.  Which shocked the hell out of me =P

> 
> It is unfortunate that few people who haven't slugged their way through
> the early days of Linux understand that Linux is capable of fitting
> niches across the broad spectrum of IT. Back in the early 90's when I
> started with Slackware you almost had to be a hardware god to get a
> basic distro to run with all the oddball hardware out there. back then
> it was all about backroom servers. Today's Linux, particularly on the
> Desktop, is pretty close to being what Plug and Play was supposed to be
> in the beginning.

You know I almost didn't try Linux.  A few Sysops had troubles and
couldn't get the hang of it.  I thought, well, if they can't...
I didn't start as early as you did, 1998 Slackware found quite a lot
of things, though not everything.


> Linspire was not developed for you. You are too knowledgeable and, based
> on your posts about your car, more interested in getting under the hood.

Agreed, but Linspire is a perfect system for say my Mom, (who's
running Suse) or some people at my work.  I went to the Summit,
basically to get an idea of what else is out there, something easier
to cope with, so I can convert more people over to the Good Side. =P


> If it hadn't been I would be asking for your HR Rep so I could go get an
> easier job. 8-) I have run Slackware, Redhat, SuSE, Mandrake, even
> Caldera over the years. These days Linux is tremendously easier to set
> up and run than back in the bad old days. But then, I started in
> electronics before integrated circuits were invented. Hell, for that
> matter most of the electronics I began working with were vacumn tubes
> and discrete components in the 60's. LOL

Ha!  I tease him about trying Slackware again, I can almost hear him
sweat over the phone =P  <half kidding here>

 
> What is there about the software warehouse that you do not like? They
> have put a lot of work into making installing a piece of software
> through their Click N Run service virtually painless. Again, this is for
> the typical user who wouldn't know what "cli" means. I like the fact
> that they handle making sure that dependencies and supporting software
> drivers, libraries, etc. are also downloaded at the same time and put in
> the right directories so the software works the first time. I have spent
> many more hours trying to resolve a DLL conflict on Windows OS.

That's true, I meant mainly for myself.

> use FrontPage. His support for Nvu was separate from his activities with
> Linspire and he put together the right people to make it a reality. Then
> he stepped back and let them do what they do best. A very rare quality
> in a businessman, especially a CEO.

NVU is a nice program, they also demo'd other mp3/music playing
software at the summit, it was amazing how far everything has
progressed for Linux.
 
> No, I do not believe there is a place for all software. I have been
> asked over the years to use my skills and knowledge to allow employers
> to spy upon workers. I have refused to aid and abet that sort of
> behavior. That was a conscious decision to take a stand. I made it fully
> understanding that I would never work for the Government again and that
> I could kiss my Top Secret clearance goodbye. I never looked back and I
> sleep quite well at night.

They spy on us at work.  Email, web browsing, I get calls from our
Corporate office that someone is playing Solitare.  I have to
uninstall it.  I work for a Government Contractor (not much better),
we're at the mercy of the Govt.  We do as they say...
 
> I learned a lot from using the earlier Linuxes but I would not like to
> go back to them. Nor do I see anyone voluntarily going back to Wordstar

Hey!  I love Joe's Own Editor! =]  I would love to go back to
Wordstar, I actually LIKED that program =P

> I am running Linspire 5.0 on my circa 2000 TuxTop with a Pentium III
> 500MHz CPU, 512MB RAM, 12GB Hardrive and DVD/CD player. It uses a
I'm suprised, I was told that an 800Mhz was the min, but maybe the 1/2
gig ram makes the difference.  None of these old clunkers of mine will
hold that much ram =P

> Yep, they are going after the "user" market just like the automakers
> went after the "driver" market. Nothing wrong with that. There will
> always be enthusiasts but they will always be a minority of the whole.
> Otherwise, what good are "bragging rights"? It sure don't put more money
> in your pocket.

It'll also put you out of business quickly =]
 -Judy
-- 
[email protected]
http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-list

Reply via email to