definition as defined by the courts: 
(http://www.ftc.gov/speeches/swindle/federalist990930.htm )

 1.When does a firm have "monopoly power" in the market for a high-tech 
product? Courts have defined monopoly power to be "the power to control prices 
or exclude competition."

2.Consumer Harm: includes higher prices


----- Original Message -----
From: "Neil Schneider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Main Discussion List for KPLUG" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Google office (Microsoft officals predict)
Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 15:02:16 -0700 (PDT)

> 
> 
> Stewart Stremler said:
> > begin  quoting Todd Walton as of Fri, May 06, 2005 at 08:00:31AM
> > -0700:
> >> On 5/5/05, DJA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > In practical economic terms Microsoft /is/ a monopoly in the
> >> operating
> >> > system market. In that market Linux is still little more than a
> >> Glob Fly.
> >>
> >> Well, "monopoly" usually means something more than just successful.
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> >> It usually implies some kind of extra-market wrong-doing.
> >
> >   Wikipedia sez: -- In economics, a monopoly (from the Greek monos,
> > one
> >   + polein, to sell) is defined as a persistent market situation where
> >   there is only one provider of a kind of product or service.
> > Monopolies
> >   are characterized by a lack of economic competition for the good or
> >   service that they provide, a lack of viable substitute goods, as
> > well
> >   as high barriers to entry for potential competitors on the market.
> 
> Here's another definition:
> 
> Monopoly-An unfair advantage or control of the market place with
> regard to the trade of certain goods or services. This type of
> exclusive marketing advantage serves to restrict competition in that
> particular activity.
> 
> Monopoly-A state of exclusive or near-exclusive ownership or control
> of a commodity, service or facility through legal privilege, command
> of supply or concerted action, making possible the manipulation of
> prices.
> 
> > I spent a few moments reading verious definitions, and I didn't find
> > any that implied some kind of extra-market wrong-doing.
> 
> A monopoly doesn't necessarily entail wrong-doing. On the other hand,
> if you have a monopoly who is going to tell you you're doing wrong?
> 
> > When we discuss the ramifications of monopolies, we eventually end up
> > there, but I don't think it's useful to extend the term to
> > automatically
> > include the presumption of wrong-doing.  Otherwise, we need to think
> > of
> > another term to describe an exclusive seller that is not engaged in
> > some
> > sort of wrong-doing.
> 
> There is no presumption in the definition. However, a monopoly gives
> the possesor of that monopoly unlimited power over price, quality and
> suitability of use of hte product that they sell. For most mortal
> humans that's too much temptation.
> 
> --
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