On Sat, Jul 09, 2005 at 02:04:27PM -0700, Andrew Lentvorski wrote: > John Oliver wrote: > >On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 11:55:14PM -0700, David M. Cook wrote: > > > >>Uh oh, does this make you one of Arnold's "special interests". > >>Glad to hear you're making a successful career change. > > > > > >Not really... if "pension reform" comes along, and if it affects the > >county, it'll only be for new hires after the fact. There's no way they > >can take pensions from people who are already in a certain plan... > >that's half of the problem with the City pension mess. Aguirre wants to > >"roll back" the questionable/illegal increases, but state law says you > >can't do that. > > Wrong. You go bankrupt. Pension mess solved.
I can see that this thread has wandered afar, but I did want to respond to this. It's one thing for a bunch of union machinists or whatever to lose their pension system. It's quite another (politically) for someone to even think about screwing over public safety workers. Threaten the police and firefighters' retirements, and hoo boy... a couple of days of "blue flu" or a work slowdown (or speedup!) will have every politician busily scarificing their own children to raise the money to fix the pension :-) This is why Schwarzeneggers first "pension reform" attempt failed... the police and firefighter unions said that it would screw over the families of those killed in the line of duty. I don't know if that was true or not, but the appearance of truth was enough to scuttle the whole thing. -- *********************************************************************** * John Oliver http://www.john-oliver.net/ * * * *********************************************************************** -- [email protected] http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-list
