On Sat, Aug 20, 2005 at 05:33:01PM -0700, Stewart Stremler wrote:
> It's sad when you sit down to (re-)use some code, and after glancing at
> the license, say "I'd really like to give my code away, but not under 
> THOSE conditions, bugger this, I'll hack my own together."

hmm? which license does do that to you? the gpl to permissive for you?
or are you only talking about the gpl not allowing something like the
advertizing clause

> The GPL claims to apply even to dynamic linking to shared libraries,
> right?

the gpl wants to apply to anything where gpl code is used to make
another app work. that is you are not even allowed to have hooks to a
gpl program, if those hooks only work with that gpl program (i remember
reading about a case where the fsf forced someone to remove such hooks.

now you may argue that this would even apply to the kernel, and yes, the
way i read it, it does, but: the fsf is not in control of the kernel, so
it is not their business. linus explicitly allows binary modules, and if
someone where to make the above case, i am sure he'd quickly step up and
make it clear that the license of the kernel is not intended to apply to
userland. any rest of doubt is then left to the courts to decide.

> > so "advertize me" ruins just about everything we are trying to achive here.
> And yet, "advertise me" is perhaps the lest onerous constraint to put on
> the code.

yup, exactly, which is why i have hope that the gpl3 may contain an
exception for this.

> Of course, having dealt with some autoconf-mangled GPL'd code today,

lol. please don't get me started about autoconf, 
i have yet to find anyone say anything good about it. 
 I
greetings, martin. (what's the e stand for?)
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