begin  quoting Andrew Lentvorski as of Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 11:24:48AM -0700:
> Stewart Stremler wrote:
[snip]
> >It's not the memorization that folks have a problem with. It's the
> >concepts.  But then, to me, regex are just a compact form of a DFA.
> 
> I actually like the original camel book for Perl better (ie. the magenta 
> one rather than the cyan one).  It had the regex description and the 
> recipes for using them in the same book.  Now, you have to have the Perl 
> book *and* the Perl Cookbook to get that.

Good for the publishers, at least.

> >I found that taking a formal languages course resulted in sendmail.cf
> >making sense; worse, not just sense, but it was *obvious*.
> 
> And then you put that sendmail.cf in use--and it fails in very 
> nonobvious ways.
 
Most folks don't immerse themselves in formal language notation before
writing sendmail.cf files.  And, like I said about regex... they're
tricky.

> Actually, sendmail.cf files are pretty easy nowadays.  Stick with the 
> normal addresses and trash everything else.

Heh. And now they're mostly generated for you.

> Now, back when your sendmail.cf had to deal with Bitnet, UUCP, DECNET, 
> JANET((?) the original standard for Britain which had the host and name 
> parts *backwards*) and a whole host of other networks and standards, 
> reading and editing sendmail.cf was torture.
 
Heh. If you could twist your brain around, it wasn't torture. Aside
from the twisting your brain around part, that is.  I found the
experience to be much like working with scheme; and like scheme, I
didn't want to *stay* there, even though it was kinda neat.

> Haven't seen an email bangpath in years,

I liked bangpaths.

Which probably says a lot about the natural twist to my brain, come
to think of it.

-Stewart "Corkscrew" Stremler


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