Ralph Shumaker wrote:
Both in rh9 and in fc3, I have tried to figure out how to rearrange
items in the main menu bar, without success.
Anyone know how?
You're obviously talking not about RH9 or FC3, but Gnome and/or KDE.
Redhat has standardized on Gnome as their default desktop with Blue
Curve as the default theme (that theme is also available in KDE).
[Note: Unless otherwise noted, all my comments on how to do it refer to
KDE only.]
I would like to create subcategories. Like under "Games" I would like
to have the subcategories "Cards", "Tiles", "Arcade", and maybe even
"Tetris".
This is easily done in KDE as you have already noticed. As far as I can
tell, there is no easy intuitive way to accomplish the same thing in Gnome.
I would like to get rid of the "More" crap (i.e. "More
Games", "More Accessories", "More Graphics Applications", etc.).
These are merely sub-menus and can be changed or deleted from within the
Control Center's Menu Editor.
I would also like to get rid of the arrows at the top and bottom of a menu
that allow me to scroll to see the rest. (I don't want to lose the
scrolling ability if more actually is there, I just want to eliminate
the need for it by reorganizing the menu with sensible submenus, at
least sensible to me. For example, "System Settings" has a submenu
"More System settings" which has only one item "Print System Switcher".
Now, where's the sense in that?! There's no need for a submenu which
has only one item unless there's a reason to offset it from the rest. I
do notice that, at least here in rh9, the submenus are listed before the
other items in a menu, like directories being listed before files. I'll
have to reboot to fc3 to see if it is the same there.)
While you can get rid of sub-menus, I don't believe there is any way of
removing the scroll arrows at the top and bottom of the list.
Personally, I don't find them annoying until the list gets too long. I
suspect that behavior (i.e. the presence of the scroll arrows) is
determined by the the Window Manager and not the Desktop Manager. Or at
maybe it's part of the Graphics library (e.g. QT (KDE), GTK (Gnome), etc.).
I found an editor in KDE that allows me to do this very thing, though I
don't think these changes translate over to the Gnome side.
No they don't. The editor in KDE is part of KDE's configuration utility,
Control Center. As far as I know, Gnome has no counterpart now, although
it had a rather nice, albeit more primitive one in earlier versions.
I'm discovering several things about KDE that I like more than Gnome. But
overall, I'm still a fan of Gnome (because of other things). I like KDE
for the pointer changing to a bouncing sort of representation of what I
just launched. It's nice to know that I'm not just waiting for
something that did not register a double-click.
I used to be a big Gnome fan. In fact I used to be a bigger
Enlightenment fan. When E went into a glacial update cycle and became
progressively hostile toward Gnome, I dropped E in favor of the less
flexible and somewhat uglier Gnome.
But apparently the Gnome team went towards Desktop Manager's for Stoopid
Suits and dumbed down the interface, made some bad graphical choices
both stylistically and artistically, and took away most of the user's
ability to configure it easily. So I tried, liked, and moved to KDE.
KDE has gotten progressively better where Gnome seems to have pretty
much stagnated. Both DM's have features and not-features. But for me
Gnome has little, if anything, to offer that outweighs the many
advantages of KDE. The only thing I miss are Gnome's Drawers.
But in Gnome, in xterm,
I like being able to hit [Shift][Ctrl][t] to get a new tab and
[Ctrl][PageUp] and [Ctrl][PageDown] to switch between them.
It looks like this is possible in KDE. KDE's Xterm has a configuration
page which allows you to bind shortcut keys to many functions. I believe
Gnome's Xterm's Tabs are equivalent to KDE's Xterm's Sessions. There are
entries in the KDE Xterm configuration page to assign keys to managing
Xterm Sessions, but these keys have no default settings. You'll have to
add them yourself.
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~DJA.
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