It's rather unlikely, but if CIO's and other IS
professionals awaken to the savings, then it could
happen. The real key is for corporate sponsor for a
ERP OSS project.  I would not suprised me if IBM were
to sponsor a ERP OSS project like  the Eclipse
foundation. To do so would give them more leverage
over Oracle and SAP while maintaining a semi-neutral
stance.

--- Lan Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 03:00:37AM -0800, Randall
> Shimizu wrote:
> > ERP software is one of the last vestiges of closed
> > propietary software. Oracle and SAP's ERP app's
> are
> > sealed shut. Until recently the SAP language could
> not
> > communicate outside it's own environment. SAP's
> big
> > claim is that they offer hosted  App's. Oracle's
> ERP
> > app's is even worse. Oracle wants you to let them
> do
> > everything. In fact Larry Ellison's mantra is
> "don't
> > touch that code". It's really ironic because
> Oracle's
> > code is written in Java.  Oracle's ERP app;s are
> not
> > J2EE compliant so this makes it very difficult to
> plug
> > in new components.
> > 
> > 
> 
> Lan's prediction: OSS will never crack ERP.
> Nevernevernever.
> 
> Why? It's psychology. Look at corporate America. The
> CEO and the CFO
> always hang out together and snicker at the CIO. The
> poor CIO is a
> second class citizen, spurned, considered nothing
> but a cost center,
> laughed at behind his back.
> 
> Thursdays when they're at the country club, the CIO
> changes behind his
> locker door because they snicker at his penis size.
> He's spurned and
> vilified.
> 
> His ONLY hope of _any_ self-esteem is to spend a
> mega-gazillion bucks on
> the corporate ERP system. *Then* people will look up
> to him! "My ERP
> system is bigger and thicker and more expensive than
> yours!" he thinks
> with satisfaction as he writes a truly frightening
> check to SAP or
> Oracle.
> 
> Moreover, these systems are such disasters for the
> users, and create
> such revulsion and resistance that the CIO gets the
> incredible emotional
> satisfaction of punishing anyone who pushes back.
> They're all
> insignificant worms anyway, with no appreciation of
> the glory of upper
> management.
> 
> Now imagine that one of these insignificant worms
> (this would be you)
> comes to the CIO and humbly says, "Excuse me, Your
> Worship, but we could
> replace this expensive behemoth with an agile,
> home-grown system that
> might actually reflect our business processes and
> even be written in
> English. Yes, we would have to customize it, but it
> might actually be
> cheaper than hiring the army of SAP/Oracle
> consultants we'd need to
> customize their products. And there would be no
> licensing fees."
> 
> But then the CIO would lose the bragging rights from
> the big budget
> project. Instead of enhanced ... virility, he's be
> identified with
> granola-eating, peacenik open source types. He might
> have to give up
> Thursday golf.
> 
> So it'll never happen. You don't need to get
> kickbacks from a huge kluge
> to get rewards from it.
> 
> This opinion is registered by one who has seen three
> major ERP projects
> undertaken, each for a budget that would have fed a
> family of four for a
> couple of millenia (and housed them and sent their
> kids to the Ivy
> Leagues). And, yes, I've also learned to find
> certain documents in SAP.
> You just have to put on your Dark Germanic thinking
> cap, because it's
> like wandering in the Black Forest at night.
> 
> -- 
> Lan Barnes                    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Linux Guy, SCM Specialist     858-354-0616
> 
> 
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