David Looney wrote:

using rpm with --root <directory>

will install all files using the given directory as root, and the
database within root (i.e. not your system database).

By your terms "directory as root" and "within root", I assume you mean "directory as /" and "within /" respectively.

If I'm understanding correctly, "rpm --root <directory> -i some-package.rpm" causes the rpm install of some-package.rpm to consider <directory> to be / as far as it is concerned and all install operations take place within that root jail. And that includes creating a new rpm database within that jail. (It's not that I'm trying to be obtuse. Sometimes stupid details that seem so obvious to some are not so obvious to me. I /think/ I understand this. But with the chance of completely mucking up "rpm" itself on my system, I want to be completely sure before proceeding. The file I need (librpm.so.0) is only found within older versions of the rpm package itself. The "apt" rpm fails for that dependency.)

I just tried it.  But "apt" still fails dependencies:

# rpm --test -hvi ./apt-0.5.4cnc9-1cl.i386.rpm
warning: ./apt-0.5.4cnc9-1cl.i386.rpm: V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 92a38df6
error: Failed dependencies:
       librpm.so.0 is needed by apt-0.5.4cnc9-1cl
09:28:49 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /download/updaters/apt]
#

<Summary>
1} a test to reassure me that "--root ./rut" is indeed isolated
2} installing older-rpm.rpm in said isolation
3} finding "librpm.so.0" (a link to librpm.so.0.0.0 in the same directory)
4} "cp --preserve=all ./rut/usr/lib/librpm.so.0.0.0 /usr/lib"
5} within "/usr/lib", "ln -s librpm.so.0.0.0 librpm.so.0"
6} "rpm --test -hiv ./apt-0.5.4cnc9-1cl.i386.rpm" only to get the same failure as I got before doing all this. The only thing I can figure is that perhaps I'm not setting up the link correctly.
</Summary>

Anyone got any clues to share?


Here's the whole process:

10:53:11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /download/updaters/apt]
# rpm --test -vi ./apt-0.5.4cnc9-1cl.i386.rpm
warning: ./apt-0.5.4cnc9-1cl.i386.rpm: V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 92a38df6
error: Failed dependencies:
       librpm.so.0 is needed by apt-0.5.4cnc9-1cl

10:53:15 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /download/updaters/apt]
# ll
total 3020
-rw-rw-r-- 1 rafael rafael 950057 Dec 8 14:37 apt-0.5.4cnc9-1cl.i386.rpm
-rw-rw-r--    1 rafael   rafael    2130440 Dec 10 08:48 rpm-4.0-6x.i386.rpm

09:03:13 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /download/updaters/apt]
# mkdir rut

09:03:32 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /download/updaters/apt]
# ll
total 3024
-rw-rw-r-- 1 rafael rafael 950057 Dec 8 14:37 apt-0.5.4cnc9-1cl.i386.rpm
-rw-rw-r--    1 rafael   rafael    2130440 Dec 10 08:48 rpm-4.0-6x.i386.rpm
drwxr-xr-x    2 root     root         4096 Dec 10 09:03 rut

09:10:06 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /download/updaters/apt]
# rpm --test -ivh ./rpm-4.0-6x.i386.rpm
warning: ./rpm-4.0-6x.i386.rpm: V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID db42a60e
error: Failed dependencies:
       libbz2.so.0 is needed by rpm-4.0-6x
       glibc > 2.1.3 conflicts with rpm-4.0-6x

09:11:28 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /download/updaters/apt]
# rpm --test --root /download/updaters/apt/rut/ -ivh ./rpm-4.0-6x.i386.rpm
warning: ./rpm-4.0-6x.i386.rpm: V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID db42a60e
error: Failed dependencies:
       gawk is needed by rpm-4.0-6x
       fileutils is needed by rpm-4.0-6x
       textutils is needed by rpm-4.0-6x
       sh-utils is needed by rpm-4.0-6x
       mktemp is needed by rpm-4.0-6x
       popt is needed by rpm-4.0-6x
       bzip2 >= 0.9.0c-2 is needed by rpm-4.0-6x
       /bin/sh is needed by rpm-4.0-6x
       /sbin/ldconfig is needed by rpm-4.0-6x
       ld-linux.so.2 is needed by rpm-4.0-6x
       libbz2.so.0 is needed by rpm-4.0-6x
       libc.so.6 is needed by rpm-4.0-6x
       libdb.so.2 is needed by rpm-4.0-6x
       libpopt.so.0 is needed by rpm-4.0-6x
       libz.so.1 is needed by rpm-4.0-6x
       libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by rpm-4.0-6x
       libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by rpm-4.0-6x
       libdb.so.2(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by rpm-4.0-6x

09:11:56 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /download/updaters/apt]
# rpm --nodeps --root /download/updaters/apt/rut/ -ivh ./rpm-4.0-6x.i386.rpm
warning: ./rpm-4.0-6x.i386.rpm: V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID db42a60e
Preparing... ########################################### [100%] 1:rpm ########################################### [100%]
error: %post(rpm-4.0-6x) scriptlet failed, exit status 255

09:13:35 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /download/updaters/apt]
# ll rut/
total 16
drwxr-xr-x    2 root     root         4096 Dec 10 09:13 bin
drwxr-xr-x    3 root     root         4096 Dec 10 09:13 etc
drwxr-xr-x    8 root     root         4096 Dec 10 09:13 usr
drwxr-xr-x    4 root     root         4096 Dec 10 09:13 var

09:13:51 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /download/updaters/apt]
# du -a | grep "librpm"
324     ./rut/usr/lib/librpm.so.0.0.0
0       ./rut/usr/lib/librpm.so.0
140     ./rut/usr/lib/librpmbuild.so.0.0.0
0       ./rut/usr/lib/librpmbuild.so.0
112     ./rut/usr/lib/librpmio.so.0.0.0
0       ./rut/usr/lib/librpmio.so.0

09:16:30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /download/updaters/apt]
# ll rut/usr/lib/librpm*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Dec 10 09:13 rut/usr/lib/librpmbuild.so.0 -> librpmbuild.so.0.0.0 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 135408 Sep 14 2000 rut/usr/lib/librpmbuild.so.0.0.0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Dec 10 09:13 rut/usr/lib/librpmio.so.0 -> librpmio.so.0.0.0 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 109166 Sep 14 2000 rut/usr/lib/librpmio.so.0.0.0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Dec 10 09:13 rut/usr/lib/librpm.so.0 -> librpm.so.0.0.0 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 323969 Sep 14 2000 rut/usr/lib/librpm.so.0.0.0

09:17:02 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /download/updaters/apt]
# ll /usr/lib/librpm*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 298016 Feb 27 2003 /usr/lib/librpm-4.2.so
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root       388864 Feb 27  2003 /usr/lib/librpm.a
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 142268 Feb 27 2003 /usr/lib/librpmbuild-4.2.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 177966 Feb 27 2003 /usr/lib/librpmbuild.a -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 903 Feb 27 2003 /usr/lib/librpmbuild.la lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Oct 14 19:10 /usr/lib/librpmbuild.so -> librpmbuild-4.2.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 898968 Feb 27 2003 /usr/lib/librpmdb-4.2.so
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root      1336524 Feb 27  2003 /usr/lib/librpmdb.a
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root          842 Feb 27  2003 /usr/lib/librpmdb.la
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Oct 14 19:10 /usr/lib/librpmdb.so -> librpmdb-4.2.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 349912 Feb 27 2003 /usr/lib/librpmio-4.2.so
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root       482154 Feb 27  2003 /usr/lib/librpmio.a
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root          795 Feb 27  2003 /usr/lib/librpmio.la
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Oct 14 19:10 /usr/lib/librpmio.so -> librpmio-4.2.so
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root          849 Feb 27  2003 /usr/lib/librpm.la
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Oct 14 19:10 /usr/lib/librpm.so -> librpm-4.2.so

09:17:40 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /download/updaters/apt]
# cp --preserve=all /download/updaters/apt/rut/usr/lib/librpm.so.0.0.0 /usr/lib/

09:18:10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /download/updaters/apt]
# cd /usr/lib

09:25:20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/lib]
# ll /usr/lib/librpm*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 298016 Feb 27 2003 /usr/lib/librpm-4.2.so
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root       388864 Feb 27  2003 /usr/lib/librpm.a
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 142268 Feb 27 2003 /usr/lib/librpmbuild-4.2.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 177966 Feb 27 2003 /usr/lib/librpmbuild.a -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 903 Feb 27 2003 /usr/lib/librpmbuild.la lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Oct 14 19:10 /usr/lib/librpmbuild.so -> librpmbuild-4.2.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 898968 Feb 27 2003 /usr/lib/librpmdb-4.2.so
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root      1336524 Feb 27  2003 /usr/lib/librpmdb.a
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root          842 Feb 27  2003 /usr/lib/librpmdb.la
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Oct 14 19:10 /usr/lib/librpmdb.so -> librpmdb-4.2.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 349912 Feb 27 2003 /usr/lib/librpmio-4.2.so
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root       482154 Feb 27  2003 /usr/lib/librpmio.a
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root          795 Feb 27  2003 /usr/lib/librpmio.la
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Oct 14 19:10 /usr/lib/librpmio.so -> librpmio-4.2.so
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root          849 Feb 27  2003 /usr/lib/librpm.la
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Oct 14 19:10 /usr/lib/librpm.so -> librpm-4.2.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 323969 Sep 14 2000 /usr/lib/librpm.so.0.0.0

09:25:28 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/lib]
# ln -s librpm.so.0.0.0 librpm.so.0

09:26:36 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/lib]
# ll /usr/lib/librpm*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 298016 Feb 27 2003 /usr/lib/librpm-4.2.so
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root       388864 Feb 27  2003 /usr/lib/librpm.a
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 142268 Feb 27 2003 /usr/lib/librpmbuild-4.2.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 177966 Feb 27 2003 /usr/lib/librpmbuild.a -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 903 Feb 27 2003 /usr/lib/librpmbuild.la lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Oct 14 19:10 /usr/lib/librpmbuild.so -> librpmbuild-4.2.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 898968 Feb 27 2003 /usr/lib/librpmdb-4.2.so
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root      1336524 Feb 27  2003 /usr/lib/librpmdb.a
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root          842 Feb 27  2003 /usr/lib/librpmdb.la
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Oct 14 19:10 /usr/lib/librpmdb.so -> librpmdb-4.2.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 349912 Feb 27 2003 /usr/lib/librpmio-4.2.so
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root       482154 Feb 27  2003 /usr/lib/librpmio.a
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root          795 Feb 27  2003 /usr/lib/librpmio.la
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Oct 14 19:10 /usr/lib/librpmio.so -> librpmio-4.2.so
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root          849 Feb 27  2003 /usr/lib/librpm.la
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Oct 14 19:10 /usr/lib/librpm.so -> librpm-4.2.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Dec 10 09:26 /usr/lib/librpm.so.0 -> librpm.so.0.0.0 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 323969 Sep 14 2000 /usr/lib/librpm.so.0.0.0

09:26:39 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/lib]
# cd /download/updaters/apt/

09:26:56 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /download/updaters/apt]
# ll
total 3024
-rw-rw-r-- 1 rafael rafael 950057 Dec 8 14:37 apt-0.5.4cnc9-1cl.i386.rpm
-rw-rw-r--    1 rafael   rafael    2130440 Dec 10 08:48 rpm-4.0-6x.i386.rpm
drwxr-xr-x    6 root     root         4096 Dec 10 09:13 rut

09:26:57 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /download/updaters/apt]
# rpm --test -hvi ./apt-0.5.4cnc9-1cl.i386.rpm
warning: ./apt-0.5.4cnc9-1cl.i386.rpm: V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 92a38df6
error: Failed dependencies:
       librpm.so.0 is needed by apt-0.5.4cnc9-1cl

09:28:49 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /download/updaters/apt]
#


David Looney

Ralph Shumaker wrote:
I've been trying for days now to get apt-get installed on my system
(rh9).  It all boils down to where I get stuck for lack of one stoopid
file that I can only find packaged in older versions of RPM.  (In my
research, I came across a couple of horror stories where they attempted
to install the older version while thinking they would just be able to
re-install the newer version.)

"man rpm" doesn't give me anything that looks like I can get rpm to
install just one file from a package in the place where it is supposed
to go and *not* update any databases in the process.  (It has a switch
to do the opposite, namely to update the database without installing any
files.)

If it's not possible to get rpm to do what I want, is there some other
way to extract just one file from a package and know where to copy it to?






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