Carl Lowenstein wrote:

On 3/16/06, Ralph Shumaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Carl's way *does* have the appeal of fewer steps.  But simplicity aside,
what are the pros and cons of one way over the other?

Although I *still* don't understand why the system (fc4) erases the link
I set up.  I don't even know if it's the shutdown or the bootup that
obliterates it.

Look at the dates in /dev.  It is most likely that the whole thing
gets rebuilt from scratch at boot time.  I just tried that on my FC3
system.  There is nothing in /dev older than March 9,
08:38, and uptime tells me the system has been up 7 days 7:39.  In the
appropriate mixed-base arithmetic, 9 08:38 + 7 7:39 = 16 16:17.  The
time now is March 16, 16:23.
So I spent a few minutes fiddling with the arithmetic.

I just saw something in /dev that is bizarre. A link called XOR is listed twice:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uptime
17:23:52 up 2 days, 23:47,  4 users,  load average: 0.12, 0.24, 0.24
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ll /dev
total 0
drwx------  2 root   root        120 Mar 13 17:37 39_of_40Gb_HD
crw-rw----  1 root   root    14,  12 Mar 13 09:37 adsp
crw-rw----  1 root   root    10, 175 Mar 13 09:37 agpgart
crw-------  1 rafael root    14,   4 Mar 13 09:37 audio
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root   root          3 Mar 13 09:37 cdrom -> hdc
.
.
.
crw-rw----  1 vcsa   tty      7, 135 Mar 13 17:38 vcsa7
crw-rw----  1 vcsa   tty      7, 136 Mar 13 09:37 vcsa8
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root   root          4 Mar 13 09:37 X0R -> null
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root   root          4 Mar 13 09:37 XOR -> null
crw-rw-rw-  1 root   root     1,   5 Mar 13 09:37 zero
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$

Hmmmmm...
I see the answer now that I cut it and pasted into here where variable width fonts are used. Interesting, in the terminal, the two look identical.


I can't even boot up with Knoppix and check the
directory since Knoppix does not default to being able to see into LVMs
and I don't know how to get it to do so, not that it really matters, so
shutdown, startup, who knows?  Or maybe in rh9 I had done the rc.local
bit.  But that drive is lost.

Boot the first distribution disk of FC4 in Rescue mode.  It has the
tools to deal with LVM.

Thanks Carl. I'll do that. This is a new (low end) computer and HDD. I've been running fc4 on it for a week or two now and have been wanting to dd the new 40G to an older 80G (just in case) and run e2fsck on the copy. But when I couldn't see (in Knoppix) anything but /boot and the LVM, it kinda stopped me cold. (I feel dumb for not thinking to check rescue mode of the install disc.)

Also, I just noticed that my Knoppix CD is v3.4 (2004-05-17). Anyone care to tell me what is the latest? (Maybe it can deal with LVM?)


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