On Friday 30 June 2006 14:25, Andrew Lentvorski wrote:
> Chris Mauricio wrote:
> > gods that is so weird. I simply don't have these issues. Fedora 4
> > installed easily on my Inspiron 710 m laptop, had to read a few 'Linux on
> > Dell' sites to get the 1280x800 display tweaked, and pass a couple lines
> > over to the kernel to get alps working the way I wanted it. The Broadcom
> > Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX worked right out of the box and the
> > Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG works fine after grabbing a binary
> > a driver complied for that kernel it. If I update the kernel, that
> > breaks, but I just grab the latest binary. The DVD burner just works, the
> > DVD player just works ( xine ) ..
>
> Did you just read what you wrote?!?!?!
>
> Had to read a few "Linux on Dell" sites to tweak the 1280x800 display
> Pass lines to kernel
> Grabbed a binary driver compiled for your kernel.
> Breaks when you update the kernel.
>
> But you "don't have these issues".
>
> That has a name: denial.
>
> > I've been running linux on laptops since ~ RH 5 ? and although I can say
> > that at times it's been interesting getting certain things to work
> > perfectly ( damn soft modems )  it's never been so arduous that I hated
> > it anywhere NEAR as much as I hate running windows.
>
> Right, but, see, I don't run Windows.  I run OS X.
>
> My comparison standard is better than Linux, not worse.
>
> -a

Oh- well, I suppose when you put it like that... It's not denial, it's just 
not agravating. I find it to be an enjoyable problem solving process, like 
solving a mystery or working on a car. I solve it, I move on and it seems to 
work reliably. Then again, I DO have a worse basis for comparison.  I think 
the longest I've spent solving an issue on my current laptop was around 15 
minutes. Everything else just falls into place with a little googling and a 
fast pipe.. 

Compare that to the the sheer hell of install, reboot, fight with the 
registry, fight with windows, reboot, crash, reboot, uninstall, rollback, 
reinstall, remove spyware, remove virus, research how to remove perniscious 
virus, research how in the hell Windows XP home manages to have a group 
policy enabled that invalidates the firewall, (virus) research how to fix it 
( no microsoft solution,  by the way) install AVG, update anti spyware, 
remove Norton AV which fails to detect said virus, go into safe mode to 
remove macafee which expired but still randomly blocks internet traffic 
outbound even though it's supposed to be OFF, reboot, bluescreen, console, 
repair, delete hibernation file, reboot, edit registry.... download and 
install Windows Validation tool, fails to validate, detects OEM version of 
WinXP as counterfeit, can't remove validation tool, rollback, reboot, search 
internet for solution, reinstall validation tool after editing registry, Now 
validation tool wants to install itself every time system boots, fix that, 
try to enable remote support for user, choice of 3 methods to send remote 
support request, email, MSN chat and as attached file, choose email, system 
tries to email encrypted Remote desktop invitation file using old mail 
settings gathered from  OE which user no longer can remember the email 
settings for, decide to punt and just re-export file for attachment via 
current web based email, THE FUCKING OPTION TO EXPORT FILE is now gone, since 
you chose email the first time ( how in the HELL are you supposed to enable 
remote support if the user's email doesn't work and that is what you want 
remote support for, nicely DONE Microsoft. )

it's not denial. I just know how bad it *could* be.  By all means, run OSX if 
linux is too flaky for you. In all fairness, Linux is free, OS X you pay for. 
If I paid for linux, I would hold it to a higher standard than I currently 
do.. maybe as high a standard as you do OSX. On the other hand, I've seen how 
XP can make a man cry in his beer, and that you DO pay for so there is no 
guarantees there either.

For a free operating system, it smokes the only other option ( windows)  that 
would run on my hardware.



C.


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