John Oliver wrote:
On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 12:01:06PM -0700, Michael O'Keefe wrote:
Anyone, even you and me, labeled as a "terrorist" can be imprisoned
without due process according to the federal government. So far, the
courts have backed this up.
Except these are people we've captured shooting at our soldiers in
faraway deserts. I'll be worried when US citizens are grabbed up on US
soil, not charged with anything, and not allowed legal representation.
You mean like if they pick up a Timothy McVeigh or Teddy Kaczynski ?
The guys who liked to blow things and people up??? Are you seriously
suggesting they shouldn't have been arrested? Or that they were
"disappeared" and stooges filled in for them at their trials? Both got
full due process.
No, I meant that if they picked those 2 up today, they'd prolly be
whisked away under the new "terrorist" title. But as a more apt example
provided by someone else, Jose Padilla has had exactly that done to him
I too wait for the day this happens, and ppl realise that there
shouldn't be a distinction between whether it "Achmed" was overseas
firing at troops, or putting bombs in local cities. Due process is due
process
Due process is due process... but there's no such thing for non-US
citizens in a foreign country. Nor should there be. The US doesn't,
and can't, make the rules for everyone.
But they feel that they should be able to detain anyone they want, and
without anyone "looking over their shoulder" just becoz it was done on
foreign soil ? Isn't that kidnapping ? Why should foreigners picked up
overseas (or anywhere) by "agents" of the US Government be processed by
US laws ? Under what authority do US "agents" feel they have the right
to pick up anyone and detain them indefinitely "becoz they say so" !?!?
I believe that a non-US citizen grabbed up on our soil should be subject
to all civil due process. Same with a US citizen grabbed somewhere
else. But I do not agree that every raghead that picks up a rifle to
plink away at our soldiers should get it. If they survive their little
adventure, that's already far more than they deserve.
Maybe they think the US is invading their country, and want to defend it?
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